Games take too long to release. They’re buggy. They’re a letdown. And the games themselves are too big, too long, too broad.
If you ask Yoshi-P, kids don't care about Final Fantasy anymore because they're taking too long to come out
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callouscomic@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
They’re taking too long to play, too. Not everything needs to be a grand, hundred-hour open-world adventure. Final Fantasy’s stories have never been simple, but they used at least used to be a direct experience.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
I feel like the series presents itself as a bit too serious for the kids, too. Especially FF16 with its Game of Thrones vibes pandered to an adult audience. It just doesn’t look like the kind of simple fun that kids tend to enjoy.
Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
My mom has been playing JRPGs like Tales of and FF since almost their beginnings, and she strongly feels this way. She constantly complains about newer JRPGs trying too hard to look western or appeal to overtly “manly” gamers, and while she takes it to a degree far more than me, I do agree with her. Especially since I know this article mentions kids were mostly playing Pokemon.
We watched the first hour or two of FF 16, and while I kinda liked the plot, it just looks too gritty and rough (and also the fuck was that softcore sex scene???). I maybe will play it since I’m doing my initial FF series marathon (started with the 3D remake of III), but I just feel meh about the later games.
I played FF XV a year ago and was severely underwhelmed, especially since I didn’t know the game is essentially unfinished without the additional story DLC. The setting took me out of it too, I was expecting a way more fictional and creative world than I got because, well, it is called “Final FANTASY”, but the reality was just. Watch this boyband drive a car for hours and do sidequests until “Oh shit we need to get the blessings of the titans/guardians/whatever!”
Having that as my first FF game was kinda disappointing lol.
graymess@hexbear.net 21 hours ago
You’re onto something. FF16 is probably the least appealing FF title so far to me. And I’m the kind of person who tunes out fantasy stories as soon as magic crystals become plot relevant. The settings don’t feel as fun and imaginative.
wopalopa@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
ff6 to 9 released when i was in primary school. even though i didnt play later installment on release day i still go back to the franchise because it shaped my childhood and i have a lot of memories hanging out with friends, banging our brain trying to beat the game and finding secrets (none of us understand english). it took them 7 years from 13 to 15 (excluding 14 because its online only) and another 7 for 15 to 16.
duckz@mastodon.gamedev.place 21 hours ago
@wopalopa @GamingBot they abandoned the fun battle mechanics and deep storytelling a while back, it's all graphics now. Graphics is a lot of work, a lot. I remember zero from FF15, except the up and down with the damn car, I remember even less from FF13 and have skipped FF16 entirely
Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
I wrote more about it in my other comment, but yeah FF 15 driving and running in empty fields killed me. And that was literally my first FF game ever. The audacity to say “Great for new and old fans” at the start was funny, since my mom who’s an FF veteran hated it too when she watched me play. I think the main party was fine, but the plot basically goes nowhere until we arrive at the water town and Levithan shows up. The the rest of the game is “ride a train and fight bad guys.”
I can appreciate games with a more “realistic” look, but I still love more cartoony 3D and pixel graphics, so I would gladly take that over these blockbuster billion dollar movie-games they keep making. Octopath is absolutely stunning imo, and I had a wonderful time playing the second game. The new mechanics were simple, but a definite improvement from the first.
And that’s kinda just JRPGs in general. I think Tales of Arise looked fine, but my mom is adamant about the monsters getting uglier. She really just loves cutesy things, so she feels upset when JRPGs with a legacy start to turn more “western” or “manly.” But I do feel like there’s a growing lack of actual discovery and whimsy in RPGs and just, “this world is big” and “Woah the graphics look so good the water is super realistic”
I keep joking that I don’t need to see a close up of every pore on Cloud’s face to buy the game. Just make the characters loveable, the story engaging, and the soundtrack good and you’ve got me.
duckz@mastodon.gamedev.place 21 hours ago
@wopalopa @GamingBot when the demo of FF15 came out I was so excited about it I bought the spinoff FF game just to get the demo. The spinoff game was supposed to be good but imho it was another mess of weird royals, gunmen, chocobos that didn't fit and a story so convoluted and names so weird I was forgetting them 3 seconds after reading the dialogues