Your Antenna TV Shouldn’t Need the Internet — But Roku Made It So

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• DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If this is real, it’s not helped by the fact that they’re trying to put DRM in ATSC3 either.

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  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They aren’t trying, they already did it. ATSC 3 broadcasts are encrypted in a lot of cities in the US. The FCC should have never allowed that.

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The company told TechRadar it plans to fix the issue, framing it as unintentional rather than a deliberate product decision.

  I’ll keep hammering this, because suckers still eat it for breakfast, as shown by Roku’s bullshit:

  Intentions don’t fucking matter. Doubly so if coming from a company, or someone speaking in the name of one. What matters is what you do. And Roku is unreasonably gating antenna access, regardless of its “intentions”.

  By the way anyone buying Roku is a sucker and deserve to be treated as one.

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• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  laughs in my Roku being firewalled off from the internet

  I don’t get or need software updates when I only watch Jellyfin anyway

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  • confusedwiseman@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mine was never ever connected to the internet. HDMI is all I needed and wanted. What evil they’re doing now is making you connect it to the internet on first boot.

    I’d bet the next step is that it has to be able to phone home at increasingly frequent intervals to allow functionality such as playing content from connected ports.

    This is brought to you by the same company that’s developed technology to detect if an hdmi connection is paused so that it can be interrupted to inject ads…

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stallman was right.

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    • LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh man. Let me tell you about what I saw from the Roku I got back in 2020 or so.

      I got a pihole before or shortly after my Roku. The PiHole showed my most blocked device being.. the Roku. Almost over 4000 DNS requests denied, especially after I fully blocked them on the PiHole because I got tired of their ads being shown when all I’m turning the damn thing on for is Plex/Jellyfin.

      They don’t like that one bit! Get this, for the time to be accurate, it MUST have connection to their servers. Not just once, mind you. Every day I leave my house, I turn off things, the Roku being one of them. I turn it off by turning off the extension it is plugged into. Every time I turned it back on, it would just show the time you cut it off at. So, if it was 8 AM when you turned it off, and it is now 9 PM, well, the clock on the Roku would still be around 8 AM.

      So, yeah. Now, I just use my Steam Deck as my watching device, hooked up to the dock. Added benefit of not having to “sideload” (read install) a YouTube IPA onto my phone. Fuckers.

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  • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly this. It’s a really good box for the price that gives your living room monitor superpowers, but no one should buy a monitor with that extra bullshit built in!

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ll take just a screen only, hold the superpowers. Unfortunately you can’t buy that anymore, or at least not at a reasonable price.

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  • 1hitsong@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🤘

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• ozymandias@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Never buy a smart tv… Pretty simple

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  • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Assuming you still can, I mean, the only modern-day ‘dumb TVs’ in existence are large conference room monitors, and those are actually about the same price as a high-end TV in some cases while having mostly the same capabilities, OK, I guess that’s viable.

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    • ozymandias@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Looks like you want a “Commercial Display” or “Hospitality TV”.
      And yes it costs more money, but that’s because you’re not trading your privacy and security for a discount on the tv.
      Apparently a projector is a common choice too, that’s what I use. Zero option to connect to the internet, mine cost $40 new @ 1080p… It’s not the best resolution but it’s great for watching movies. Mine is just connected to my computer directly, no need for any of those streaming apps thanks to qbittorent.
      …
      I’ll be deep in the cold cold ground before I buy any device that requires an app or requires internet.

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• _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The one thing I find funny here is that the TV couldn’t have possibly received the update that introduced this problem unless it was connected to the Internet, so the victim in this case is a person who only watches OTA TV (because otherwise they’d have to click “ok” on the pop up to access the streaming apps, which they obviously don’t want to do), but keeps their smart TV online at all times.

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  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    One of my monitor is a smart tv that I block internet access to. Only way to use one of these damn things. Unfortunately I looked into new tv and no seems to be selling the dumb ones.

    How long until they make it so you can’t even turn one on without internet access?

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    • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Im surprised it’s not already a requirement for every TV. Honestly, I think you have to buy a projector at this point to get something big and dumb.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s how they make money

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• adarza@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  lemme guess… you can’t rollback or reset and load the original oob firmware, either.

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