Trillions of miles of data: Your car is spying on you, and it's only just the beginning

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• Undearius@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you bought a Nissan, you’ve given them the right to collect data about your sexual orientation and history. It’s in their privacy policy.

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  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    thafuq.

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  • asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    • Sir we have to take the car back.
    • But why?
    • You were sexually abusing it ever since you bought it.
    • How tf do you know that?!
    • The contract says we have the right to check your sexual orientation.

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• ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mine isn’t. I got a 2023 bolt and immediately upon taking possession, pulled the fuse that runs that shit. I could go behind the screen and remove the onstar module entirely, and I probably will to restore the nav and location-based charging at some point, but not a priority. Pulling the fuse didn’t disable anything I can’t live without, since my old car didn’t even have the stuff that gets disabled.

  I don’t use apps on my phone that connect to the car, and haven’t even synced my phone for calls. I have an old android I factory reset and created a local account on, which doesn’t have a sim card, just hotspot from my active phone, and I use that for the EV charge location apps, totally isolated from anything else because they, too, syphon data.

  I’d personally never buy a vehicle that couldn’t have all that shit disabled. It may still collect it, but if I cant intercept or prevent transmission of it, I wouldn’t buy the vehicle.

  I’m hoping that by the time I need to replace this one, we have at least started to invest in decent public transit that doesn’t take 3-10x as long as driving. It could happen. Else I’ll just never leave home because I won’t buy one.

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  • Sineljora@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Repair shops upload stored data automatically when they have to purchase a software license to do work on your car.

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    • ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you have a citation for that? With how shit search has become I’m struggling to find anything about it. All i get are right-to-repair articles and stuff about data access being a problem for repair shops (I assume thats in the same vein)

      Wonder how that works when I haven’t consented to any data disclosures, even implicitly. I didn’t set up any of those things, because I pulled the fuse, and no consent screens ever came up. None of the paperwork signed was for it, either, best I could tell.

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• HarneyToker@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As if I needed more reasons to keep repairing my shitbox from 2013. Japanese, no internet connection or infotainment integration. I could take out a 12 month loan for an engine replacement every year and it still wouldn’t cost as much as a car payment + full coverage insurance.

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  • Skyline969@piefed.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ll be driving my Japanese vehicle into the ground. Analog everything, smartest thing on it is Bluetooth but there’s no app, no smart anything, no cellular antenna. Considered looking into converting it into a PHEV but that would probably be quite expensive, if even remotely possible. Especially without adding third party telemetry.

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  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a false equivalency, though, as the former didn’t include matching insurance— nevermind that it’s generally illegal, IIRC, to drive uninsured. 😅☝🏼

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    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The minimum insurance to cover legal requirements (and not damages to your own car) is pretty cheap tbf

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    • HarneyToker@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When you drive a car owned by the bank, they require you have full coverage on the vehicle. I own my car and am not making payments, so I can have the lowest possible liability my state allows on my car.

      If I had a used car I was making payments on, I would be required by law to have full coverage on the vehicle. I did no suggest that I have NO insurance.

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    • HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The legally required minimum liability insurance for my 20 year old Honda is $36 a month.

      My wife’s 2013 Lexus? Full coverage: $120 a month.

      Both of them are paid off, but hers is “prettier” and so she wanted to keep full coverage on it when we paid it off.

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• sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So like, what car do you buy new if you want to mod it to not phone home?

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  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The one you downloaded in the 90s.

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  • scoobford@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No can can transmit data without an antenna. I disconnect mine when I get a new car and just don’t install their app on my phone.

    Some cars have a “telemetry” fuse, but I’ve never trusted that. They don’t explicitly say which part of the car does the spying and the reporting.

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    • prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What antenna? The FM am antenna? There are probably multiple others hidden that are tiny (think mobile phones) if they want to so it without Our knowledge.

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    • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A cellphone doesn’t have a visible antenna, yet it transmits. I’m only saying this because I dont know about cars… are you removing the radio receiver antenna, or is there a cell phone antenna hidden in the car somewhere that can also be removed?

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• Iconoclast@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m unreasonably infuriated by this title format.

  My car isn’t spying on me. It doesn’t have any kind of wireless connectivity whatsoever.

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  • EddoWagt@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My car barely even has a computer

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• django@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I possess no such thing.

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• FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Laughs in 2003 Mazda and 2016 Kia

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• HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  laughs in 20 year old shitbox

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• KayLeadfoot@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Love me some good Beeb coverage, this is great

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