Memory Prices Indefinitely High: SK Hynix Says Shortage Continues Through 2030 - PC Perspective

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• eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There is no shortage, the ram is being hoarded by ai bros

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• nosuchanon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The memory price fixing will continue until profits continue to rise.

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• onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Isn’t there a 4rth RAM producer in China that is starting to make waves?

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  • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    CXMT

    Gamers Nexus has mentioned them a few times on youtube.

    I’m assuming the usa will label them as communist terrorist witches though, and it will not be available in the usa, and possibly also not available in some of their ally of evil nations.

    I’m still not quite sure what happened with Deepcool in that respect though, since I bought a Gamerstorm psu a few weeks ago. Gamerstorm is Deepcool, they have mirrored products under both brands.

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    • RogueBanana@piefed.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even if US doesn’t open up, many others would so that would reduce the demand and in turn the price for the cartel.

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  • alakey@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Even if another manufacturer enters the market, why is everyone so convinced they are just going to spit out cheap RAM? If anyone is going to invest in RAM now, it’s going to be solely for the insane profits. Case in point: the RAM you are talking about is already 600€+

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    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because they are filling market demand. They don’t have to produce consumer ram (or even cheap ram), they just have to supply the market demand for any dram chips and prices will fall, providing demand doesn’t increase further - which it still may.

      Ram is expensive because of low supply and high demand. I’ve not heard of any cartel agreements, so price is still set by the market itself.

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They just have to sell them cheaper to get customers. Then the others will have to drop their prices as well to compete.

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  • SillyMe@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    only for the Chinese market from what I’ve read about them. if they manage to scale to the point of exporting then prices will drop with or without the bubble popping. my money is on a pop though.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If the memory prodiced in China fills the market demand in China then the demand for memory from non-Chinese companies will drop. Even more so if they export to other countries.

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  • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heard of them too, iirc the sticks they have now are still ‘slow’ compared to companies sucking AI penis (8400 nits to 9400 nits[?] whatever that means).

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• gedfromgont@piefed.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Honest question, why would the prices at this point ever go down again, even if the AI bubble pops?

  Those companies are now used to these profits. For them, profits always have to increase year after year. If there’s no other choice of vendor (and I know this would open an opportunity for a new vendor to come and be cheaper, but if it were that easy with RAM it would have happened already), why would they even care to reduce it again?

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  • ISOmorph@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If the AI bubble pops, there would be more supply than demand, driving the price down since storage is costly

    It won’t pop though, since it’s singlehandedly driving the stock market. If too big to fail ever needed a poster child, this is it.

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  • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Classic capitalist crises of over-production at the end of a business cycle will cause prices to crash and companies to fail and be subsequently gobbled up by the ones that survive.

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