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- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Wow, okay, that’s really fucking rude and uncalled for. Congratulations. You win. I quit. Goodbye.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Wow, thanks so much for your insightful input.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Why would I continue explaining anything when you haven’t even understood the very basic explanation I’ve already given?
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
It seems that you can only think of value in terms of making a profit.
Wrong. I do all kinds of things with no intention of monetary profit. Those things do not involve my business.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
You’ll never innovate if you never put time into projects simply for practice, or better still, enjoyment.
That’s just pure non-sense.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
I don’t know how you read that from what I said
I didn’t. I read that from the OP.
Do you think that devs and engineers pay for prototypes themselves?
If it’s intended for no reason other than personal consumption? Abso-fucking-lutely? Does your company pay you to fuck around with your hobbies at home?
Whatever bud, enjoy being convinced you’re right so hard that you get mad at other people I guess.
Please point out what I said that led you to believe I was “mad” at anyone. Other than the other people lobbing personal insults at me.
I guess the end result of… the steam deck and multiple people at Valve describing that’s how it works are just not real because how they came to exist at all don’t make sense to you.
What they did is real. What they said is not.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Because making money was always the intention. That’s my point.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
I dunno where you’re getting my “attitude” from. I am not a manager and have not given any opinions on how management should work.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
this is how I know you’ve never created anything
So I suppose you spend millions funding engineers to create products as personal toys with no intention of selling any of them?
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
It… it goes into the company.
How does fucking around researching and developing products for their team members benefit the company?
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Is there a point you’d like to make or did you just come to here lob personal attacks?
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
do you think all of those people were 100% sure that each of their designs would work?
I’m sure 0% of them did but 100% of them were researching to find products to sell.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Sure, with the intention of finding a product to sell. But the whole point of this article is that they never intended to sell it:
The point wasn’t even to make a product out of it
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Sure, but anything that “The point wasn’t even to make a product out of it” is 100% definitely a waste of resources. So either they’re intentionally throwing money in the garbage or the intent absolutely was to make a product out of it…
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Steam made Valve more than $2,000,000,000 in 2021.
You say this as if all the money goes into to pockets of the devs and engineers to fuck off an do whatever they want. I ask again how this explains why Valve would throw money away.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
I don’t know what any of that has to do with throwing millions in the garbage can…
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
Sure but they’re saying it wasn’t a prototype. At least not intended to be.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 1 month ago:
"And there are people [at Valve] who were like, ‘I just want that for me.’ The point wasn’t even to make a product out of it. It was just, let’s see if you can actually make something that I would want to use for that purpose.”
Seems highly unlikely Valve was dedicating valuable dev/engineer time to make a toy they had no intention of ever producing…
- Comment on 'It even breaks my heart a bit': Denuvo pushes back on its haters, says Steam forums are a 'very toxic, very hostile environment' 1 month ago:
it exemplifies rather well why I hate the word “toxic”
I mean it can be abused just like any other adjective…
- Comment on 'It even breaks my heart a bit': Denuvo pushes back on its haters, says Steam forums are a 'very toxic, very hostile environment' 1 month ago:
Imagine someone punches you in the mouth and then when you get pissed off and say mean things, they call you “toxic” and “hostile”. Like bitch, you created this situation.
- Comment on Portal 2 project lead wants Valve to return to single-player games 1 month ago:
I didn’t say they only cared about that but it’s not like they’re a charity…
- Comment on Portal 2 project lead wants Valve to return to single-player games 1 month ago:
…okay? What does that have to do with what I said?
- Comment on Portal 2 project lead wants Valve to return to single-player games 2 months ago:
Sure, it’s not like their last full release was actually a single player only game.
You have to consider Valve’s position there. That wasn’t just any old single-player game, it was a VR game that was released to boost development of VR games in general, which Valve would make money off of basically any VR game ever created.
Same reason they created the Steam Deck. Look how that worked out for them.
- Comment on Portal 2 project lead wants Valve to return to single-player games 2 months ago:
Valve doesn’t care because single player games have a short lifespan and finite income. Games like Counter-Strike people play and spend money for literal decades. The amount of money they must make from these is unfathomable.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
I said “Regrading their newest chips, I have no clue as of right now.”
You also said “not sure what you mean by Intel.” I was telling you what I meant.
because we really don’t have any significant testing done at low power
Significant? No but we have what I would consider sufficient testing done to say that there is a significant improvement in efficiency, on PAR with Apple and Qualcomm.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
I honestly don’t know. No one does. Valve is working on it. We have no idea of the current state of their progress. Likely rudimentary. I was commenting purely on the efficiency.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
Valve is already working on ARM support.
Intel absolutely has, if you look at the Lunar Lake stuff.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
You may not have been but I am. Valve is already working on ARM support.
MSI Claw showed quite abysmal performance
It also didn’t have the new Lunar Lake chips.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
Exactly. They’re already working on ARM support.
- Comment on Valve still waiting on a 'generational leap' for Steam Deck 2 - but it's coming 2 months ago:
Nothing yet surpassed Zen2 low power efficiency in the SD.
Qualcomm, Intel and Snapdragon have all released chips that blow it out of the water.