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realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

We need more kids being exposed to gambling

I’m honestly tired of debating that point again and again. However, to summarize my stance on this: If parents are unable or unwilling to monitor what their child is playing or spending money on, that is not the problem of steam - or any platform for that matter. It’s also not EAs fault if a child is spending thousands of bucks in ultimate team. If my child stole my credit card and did that, I would refund the money immediately and get his account locked. It’s honestly tiring of hearing people demanding companies to “protect the children” when many parents do fuck all to protect or educate THEIR children.

I can’t even discribe how sad it is to be a person that needs to get defensive about a corporation because their service is alright for the most part.

Saying that a 30% cut is justified for everything steam offers isn’t “defending” steam, it’s just stating my opinion, but yeah whatever, you do you.

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artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

It’s honestly tiring of hearing people demanding companies to “protect the children” when many parents do fuck all to protect or educate THEIR children.

That’s exactly why they need to do more… Children shouldn’t be forced to suffer because corporations exploit them and their shitty parents.

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- realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Disagree. Not because I don’t want corporations to do something, but because the ways they’d need to implement are a net-negative overall.
  
  There’s a huge discussion going on right now about age verification on OS level. That’s exactly the kind of shitty results we get when we have other entities being responsible for child safety than the parents. And that’s not a world I want to live in. I don’t want to have to upload my government ID to any service I want to use and live in a borderline surveillance state because parents aren’t able to pay attention to their children.
  
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  - artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Ager verification is absolutely not a necessity to curtail gambling, obviously.
    
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    Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    They were also the ones to bring out the 30% cut mocking the people talking about it in general and when I called them out they doubled down saying that sharing an opinion is not defending a corporation. Lmao
    
    I see so many bad takes from them in this thread and it’s wild to see people upvote them. I thought the users here would know better about tech instead of getting parasocial with a corporation and thinking it can’t do bad…
    
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    realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It is. There is no other way to “protect the children” if you don’t want parents to do their job.
    
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  - MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Or, hear me out on this one…
    
    Real-money-and-equivalent gambling could be removed from Steam completely. No age verification needed.
    
    As for child safety, Steam already has parental control features.
    
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    realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Real-money-and-equivalent gambling could be removed from Steam completely
    
    As the entire betting and gambling market is outside of steam, the only thing they could do is removing the entire steam marketplace, which would be a pretty impactful step that overall would just take a fairly cool feature away. I think it’s honestly pretty cool that I can make use of skins or other items in games that I no longer play, much better than playing a game, having plenty of skins and then do nothing with them.
    
    As for child safety, Steam already has parental control features. I don’t know how extensive/useful are they, though.
    
    Idk either, but from what I know, child safety features in most platforms are pretty extensive and powerful these days.
    
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- Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  And I was talking about literal casinos running on steam and not the exploitative games in there. There’s absolutely no reason for steam virtual market (don’t remember the name) to exist (besides it making valve money) and they could crack down on casinos easily but again, that makes them money. Also steam popularised lootboxes and they have this dumb case + key psychological trick in cs to drive more purchases. As for the 30% cut, the indie devs already have it rough. Developing a game takes a lot of effort and time. Taking 30% cut while publishers take another cut on top makes it hard for indies to sustain themselves and so they often close down. Not to mention the insanity of steam actually lowering the cut for really big studios (the more you earn the lower the cut) to keep them on the platform when corporations will do just fine and the indies need the money the most.
  
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