And I was talking about literal casinos running on steam and not the exploitative games in there. There’s absolutely no reason for steam virtual market (don’t remember the name) to exist (besides it making valve money) and they could crack down on casinos easily but again, that makes them money. Also steam popularised lootboxes and they have this dumb case + key psychological trick in cs to drive more purchases. As for the 30% cut, the indie devs already have it rough. Developing a game takes a lot of effort and time. Taking 30% cut while publishers take another cut on top makes it hard for indies to sustain themselves and so they often close down. Not to mention the insanity of steam actually lowering the cut for really big studios (the more you earn the lower the cut) to keep them on the platform when corporations will do just fine and the indies need the money the most.
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artyom@piefed.social 1 day agoIt’s honestly tiring of hearing people demanding companies to “protect the children” when many parents do fuck all to protect or educate THEIR children.
That’s exactly why they need to do more… Children shouldn’t be forced to suffer because corporations exploit them and their shitty parents.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Disagree. Not because I don’t want corporations to do something, but because the ways they’d need to implement are a net-negative overall.
There’s a huge discussion going on right now about age verification on OS level. That’s exactly the kind of shitty results we get when we have other entities being responsible for child safety than the parents. And that’s not a world I want to live in. I don’t want to have to upload my government ID to any service I want to use and live in a borderline surveillance state because parents aren’t able to pay attention to their children.
artyom@piefed.social 1 day ago
Ager verification is absolutely not a necessity to curtail gambling, obviously.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They were also the ones to bring out the 30% cut mocking the people talking about it in general and when I called them out they doubled down saying that sharing an opinion is not defending a corporation. Lmao
I see so many bad takes from them in this thread and it’s wild to see people upvote them. I thought the users here would know better about tech instead of getting parasocial with a corporation and thinking it can’t do bad…
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 23 hours ago
It is. There is no other way to “protect the children” if you don’t want parents to do their job.
artyom@piefed.social 23 hours ago
It isn’t. There are lots of other ways. Gambling is a heavily regulated industry. Valve just sidesteps this by not being designated as such.
I do want parents to do their job. The problem is they don’t. And who suffers when they don’t? Not me, not you, and not the parents. Its the children.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
It’s not just about the children buddy. Adults are veulnerable too. There’s no need to throw them off the cliff just because they passed that special age mark. Your solution about requiring id check to prevent children from gambling wouldn’t do anything about adults because the issue is far more fundamental and about how the system is structured not how you enter it. Also it’s not about corporations doing parent’s job but about wanting something as simple as corporations not exploiting people including in big part children. You’re paiting this thread like valve is good and we are asking valve to do more good by doing job of the parents while in reality we want valve to stop doing evil that valve does. And yet you will insist that you are not defending a corporation. The delusion is crazy.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Or, hear me out on this one…
Real-money-and-equivalent gambling could be removed from Steam completely. No age verification needed.
As for child safety, Steam already has parental control features.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 11 hours ago
As the entire betting and gambling market is outside of steam, the only thing they could do is removing the entire steam marketplace, which would be a pretty impactful step that overall would just take a fairly cool feature away. I think it’s honestly pretty cool that I can make use of skins or other items in games that I no longer play, much better than playing a game, having plenty of skins and then do nothing with them.
Idk either, but from what I know, child safety features in most platforms are pretty extensive and powerful these days.
Nikelui@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
As for how Steam Family mode works: you can lock the account behind a pin. Without unlocking, you cannot access the store or any community features. Also, every game in your library must be manually added to “Family view” or it will not show up.