Not even remotely related, also if they made a standalone driver it wouldnt matter because for the most part xinput doesnt support the unique hardware and if they made a standalone steaminput driver nobody else would put in any effort to support it. Its like how Valve lets anyone publish software for SteamOS by supporting flatpaks yet not a single other store acturally does. They would need to emulate xinput or directly support it meaning the touchpads and back buttons wouldnt be supported along with gyro or touchsense (at that point just get a standard controller).
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potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Standalone driver when? I’m waiting, Valve.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Firstly, xinput support would still be useful. Reduced functionality >> no functionality. Secondly, it a standalone druver would only need to remove the steam itself and keep what makes the controller work. It would not require any extra work from any game dev. Stop making excuses for rich corporations providing half-baked support. It’s kinda pathetic.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
If it was xinput you would be correct it would not require any additional dev work as they already support xinput, however functionality would be so severely reduced that honestly I cannot think of a single reason to use it like that (unless you really like the ergonomics I guess). If they went out of their way to make a standalone steaminput driver though that would require additional dev work for game devs that nobody else would do. You say why make excuses for rich corporations but why are you making excuses for xbox basically limiting xinput to their own controllers. Objectively xinput sucks, its clear that they never intended it to be a universal standard and until a truly open source API can replace it then yeah you’re going to have weird solutions like requiring steam open.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I specifically said “standalone driver”. That does not equate to xinput support. You still have not understood what I said.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
It’s hard to say before we can try it out, but it defaults to generic keyboard/mouse controls for desktop. I haven’t seen any official confirmation if you can swap it to a generic gamepad like the steam deck controls by holding start/menu.
There’s also a 3rd party program for managing the original steam controller, hopefully we’ll see it support this one as well.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
the desktop layout does indeed switch between mouse + keyboard mode and gamepad mode when you hold that button (don’t know which), but I’ve also heard of people saying that in that time the controller tells the pc that it is a keyboard with gamepad inputs, which means a decent amount of games might not recognize it properly. that might be a firmware issue that’s already fixed or will be fixed, but at the moment I don’t know how well it works. I’ve ordered it early on and seem to have gotten into the second wave in germany/europe, so maybe i can share more when i receive it in a week or so (estimated based on what the order page told me)
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Why would using a 3rd party program be acceptable? I meam, how can someone outside Valve make that but Valve themselves cannot? It’s pretty ridiculous.