Repairability isn’t an absolute scale, and smaller form factors need to make more compromises in modularity. It’d be silly to judge this on the same metric as a fully modular desktop PC since it’s not trying to be a substitute for that use case.
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potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks agoHave fun fixing it when anything other than the ssd or ram breaks.
ericwdhs@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
However, you can build a pc with what the steam machine costs, and the steam machine is not that much smaller than an itx pc. So yeah, I think they can be compared.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The PC won’t be the same size. Or have CEC.
Side note: Seriously how the fuck do normal ass PCs not support CEC?
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Not having cec control is such a minor inconvenience that I honestly don’t even care. Regarding size, between tiny, unfixable and unupgradeable and small but fixabla and upgradeable, the choice is pretty simple. Heck, the steam machine is not even better value than a similarly priced pc. It even performs worse. Hopefully v2 will be better, if there is one.
ericwdhs@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
“Not that much smaller” is doing some heavy lifting. Every SFF build or mini PC compromises something, price, size, thermal performance, whatever. Physics necessitates it. It’s perfectly fine for you to not value size so much that a 3.8L case isn’t compelling to you over let’s say a 6L ITX case (or the 8L you really need for a discrete GPU), but it’s also okay to feel the opposite.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Except that ot’s not just that. You build something larger but still pretty small and you can upgrade whatever you want, whenever you want. You can also have the same software experience by just installing bazzite. What valve has done for linux gaming is wonderful, but the steam machine simply does not make sense.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Some people just don’t have enough of a life to be happy for others. How sad your life must be.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Lol. If I wanted a steam machine, I would’ve bpught it.
auzy1@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah. I tried gaming PC for a while. Have fun with random issues.
Same as a nas. Everyone tries building their own, and ends up going turnkey eventually
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
The steam machine IS a pc.
auzy1@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sorry, that’s what I mean. I mean custom pc
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
There’s no reason why a steam machine would be inmune to software/driver/hardware issues. I mean, it’s basically a laptop in a different form factor and laptops hace issues too.
rotopenguin@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
When you can’t fix something, it’s usually “the OEM is doing something insane in their ACPI code”, or “you have a cracked MLCC somewhere, which pushes power delivery barely out of spec and some net doesn’t make timing under complex microarchitectural conditions”.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
That has absolutely never happened to me in over 2 decades. Sucks for you I guess.
rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
wtf who says this to people? Who raised you?
ericwdhs@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
Lol. Thank you.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Dude can be proud of being a consumist and buying everything and anything Valve makes, but no one can point out that that’s kinda dumb? Ok.
riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Read the room buddy, this is a celebratory thread. We’re excited the machines are shipping. This is a happy place. (With some gentle joking out of jealousy.).
You threw a big 'ole damper! OP is happy they got a thing and you respond with “have fun when it breaks!” You’re going to get some funny looks when you do that.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
You can hate on facts, they’ll still be facts. Have fun ignoring reality, I guess.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
While I am not one to shit on peoples excitement and personally I kinda want a steam machine (and especially want the controller), I do also think its fair to say the fediverse absolutely loves to be anti-consumer until its consumerism that appeals to us as a group 😅
Still not gonna be antagonistic about people’s joy though 🤷🏻♂️ I kinda want one, I’d be jazzed if mine just showed up too
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I mean you could have made your comment about that and not “lol I hope your $1k cube breaks.”
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Same goes for literally every comment in social media. Solid argument there bud xD
Also, electronic devices always break. It’s not a matter of “if”, but rather “when” and “what”. I didn’t say that I wish it breaks, just that it’ll be a pia to fix when it does.
ericwdhs@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
Lol. Don’t assume I’m going into these purchases on blind fanboyism, and don’t confuse “niche” with “bad.” I just have very good experiences with their hardware going all the way back to the OG Controller, Link, and the Vive (which I consider theirs more than HTC’s), and that informs decisions that follow.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“Objective”? Any objective person would have come through the thread, and then move on. There’s nothing objective about you except for the fact that you’re and objectively sad individual who is probably going through some bad life situations. By the way, I’m being as objective as you, in case you’re wondering.
What a fucking moron 🤣
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
That’s literally a subjective opinion. You might need a thesaurus dude.