Comment on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 3.0.1. Patch Fixes Anti-Bagging Measures Accidentally Triggering

• hansl@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Mario Kart is a racing game like Smash Bros is a fighting game; sure it fits, but you can’t really compare it directly to the competition.

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  • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Knocking opponents off the stage is close enough to lowering their HP to 0.

    Being slower than everyone else is the opposite of being faster than everyone else. It does seem like it’s cheesing the system that’s supposed to balance things out.

    Even items in Smash Bros has a skill component in getting to the item first. And “rubber band” mechanics like bonus final smashes (and items in general) can be turned off.

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    • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Knocking people off the stage isnt the part that makes smash uncomparable to other fighting games.

      Its the fact that its technically a platforming game, and a multiplayer game, which frequently incentivizes running and hiding from opponents, and has a built in random trip mechanic to fuck you over for no reason other than coin flip handicapping you, among a myriad of other examples of how the game can make the weaker player win.

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      • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When the Smash meta revolves around playing sub-optimally until the other player trips, let me know.

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    • hansl@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s also possible to turn those off (items and their distribution), making bagging a minor issue at best.

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      • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Isn’t the competitive default online in Mario Kart to have items on?

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  • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Eh serious tournaments disable items in Smash, the same isn’t said for Mario Kart.

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• ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It does, but for a real world parallel see bike sprints.

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  • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is it because of wind resistance? The one in front cuts through the wind for everyone else?

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    • ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes. But it’s a duel, so they’re just trying to stay behind one person.

      You’re not allowed to stop, so you try and creep forward really slowly by doing bike stands until the last lap.

      I dunno exactly what sandbagging looks like in Mario Cart, but I kind of doubt it looks this silly.

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      • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Interesting!

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