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• ashok36@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Steam controller is a miracle. Yes, it’s a first Gen product that needs iteration but a controller with track pads, gyro, paddle buttons, and wireless for $50 is still the best value controller ever made imo.

  Throw in steam input, which if you haven’t tried it lately is fucking amazing at this point, and I honestly can’t understand why companies aren’t clamoring to integrate it.

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  • rotopenguin@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have a Steam controller and a Deck, I never clicked with the SC. Its touchpads were just a bit inconsistent, so I would end up rubbing them uncomfortably hard to make sure they register. The regular controller inputs are tiny and horribly offset from any comfortable position.

    The deck absolutely nailed the controls. (Well, once you replace the sticks with Hall sensors. The stock rheostats are toast after a year.)

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• drekly@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The steam controller is fucking fantastic. No other controller lets you play mouse based games the same way. With its trackpads and gyro aiming you can be way more accurate than a normal controller. If you’re using it expecting it to be just a variety of a traditional console controller, you’re in for a bad time.

  The steam controller is more personal, you can remap any button to be anything, and any modifier to enable on any button press. (Like turn on gyro aim when you hold R2) there’s a ton of aiming options, you can use the trackpads to create circular menus for weapon or skill selections… the possibilities are endless.

  But instead people just bought it, and thought ‘this not as comfy as xbox, why only one joystick, why no dpad’ and put it down again.

  People had the chance for better but it meant learning something new.

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  • greenskye@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It has a pretty significant learning curve and because you’re not at all familiar with the layout it’s hard to decide on a layout that works for you. That ‘more personal’ aspect is part of the problem, at least at first. It’s going to feel awkward no matter what, but without a consensus on how to use it, it gives me analysis paralysis trying to decide how to set it up.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Welcome to the way PC players have played since remapping keys was a thing. Not everyone wants basic WASD and to learn the game’s control peculiarities - which you have to learn for each game anyway regardless of control type.

      Get a customizable controller, map the same functions to the same buttons each time for each game, then place the new functions based on accessibility and importance. Works great, reduces the curve for learning the new game’s tools.

      I’ve been using a version of a small gamepad for over a decade, it has selectable setups and can custom map each game. My jump key is always the same. Grenade always the same. Interact always the same. Next item always the same…you get the idea.

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      • greenskye@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I play almost exclusively on PC, and even there controls are pretty standardized. WASD movement, E typically to interact. R to reload (if relevant). Space to jump.

        There’s no analogue to the steam controllers touchpad anywhere. What do I do with it? How do I use the back buttons effectively?

        It’s all doable to learn of course, but it’s just a slightly too high barrier for most. I’ve got a steamdeck and honestly I never use the touchpads or the gyro, they just feel awkward so I stick with a mostly Xbox style setup.

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  • settoloki@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’ve convinced me to give mine another go. As soon as I find it that is.

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  • jpeps@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If it’s your sort of thing it’s such a good controller, and if not there’s community layouts for most games.

    I do get a little satisfaction out of playing a more complex game like Cities Skylines on the sofa and figuring out a controller friendly build for it.

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    • spriteblood@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I'm hoping they do a Steam Controller 2.0 at some point that has the same inputs as the Steam Deck - two sticks, proper D-Pad, etc. In terms of compatibility, it can't be beaten.

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• directive0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can take my steamtroller when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Fucking love that thing. Not just for gaming either, couch computing is all possible via the steamtroller. LOVE IT.

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• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use the steam controller. Nothing wrong with it in my mind (except maybe the fact that it uses batteries and is slightly too large).

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  • ichbean@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    except maybe the fact that it uses batteries I disagree. Because of swappable batteries my controller is still relevant 7 years and half worn down sticks later.

    If I were to complain, it’s about unpleasant hollow sound on trackpads and L1/R1 button clicks.

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    • ashok36@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those are my two gripes too. They seemed to have fixed those issues on the deck though. If they ever do a v2 I’m sure those improvements will carry over.

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      • 60fpsrefugee@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Deck bumpers are still a long way from the best bumpers - xbox’s.

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  • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The AA batteries last really, really long and you can get rechargeable ones. You swap them in a few seconds and can continue playing.

    The ones that were included with the controller lasted me for several months before I had to swap them.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, they do last a long time.

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• WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes, it’s imo the best controller to ever exist… For my needs at least. Also the most comfortable

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• curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I own two and use them

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• Leilys@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I actually bought one for my collection. Takes a lot of tweaking, which I think is what detracts a lot of people, but it’s not bad hardware at all.

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