No they won’t
source: literally everything Valve has ever made still works.
Well, Valve may drop support for the firmware.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
hugs Steam controllers
mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
It may work, but there are software dependencies that will become end of life. The first to go will probably be the GPU drivers. In 10 years or so, Linux will discontinue the GPU drivers and you will not be able to run the latest Linux kernel.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Weird, my ten year old laptop still works.
Linux will discontinue the GPU drivers
It’ll be community-maintained at that point. If it’s worth updating and there’s demand for it, someone will bother, just like any console, and made all that much easier running open software.
I’d actually willingly bet anyone here $1500 that the Deck will be able to boot a mainline Linux kernel in 2035.
mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Yeah i agree with you, but there is a limit to community support. The Steam Deck specifically has a big community, but most hobbyists don’t like to spend a ton of time maintaining.
I believe my 11 year old Thinkpad T540p still runs mainline kernels too. The GPU is not supported by the new Intel Iris userspace driver though, so I would need to run a legacy driver that does not support vulkan. Its still packaged by Arch, but it does limit my options.
I’d say 10 years until new games stop running with all features, and 20-30 years until it stops running mainline kernels and loses network access to Steam.
devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It seems there’s a lot of misunderstanding in this thread about how linux works and upstream drivers being in the kernel works. If it works it works, it will keep working.
Valve can stop develop wtv they want and it won’t change a thing.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s no guarantee. It‘s naïve.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Microsoft is generally far more savage about dropped OS support than Linux. The latter undergoes fewer forced overhauls.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, but this is of no consequence to my initial statement.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Steam stopped working on Windows 7
You’re trolling, right?
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Plenty of software still supports Windows 7. So literally not everything they made still works, there is no guarantee.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Sure, but since Valve makes their money back via game sales instead of hardware like other OEMs, I find that they have a much bigger incentive in keeping the firmware update to date than let’s say AYANEO or even ASUS.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes but thinking a piece of hardware will receive support for eternity is naive.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 2 months ago
The entire point was that you don’t have to rely on vendor support. With proprietary consoles, unless someone hacks it, you won’t get any support when the vendor drops support.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Bro it’s fucking Linux based. Did you not think before speaking?
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I wrote and didn’t speak, did you think? The drivers will need maintenance.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The drivers will need maintenance. And guess what the Linux Community is known for?
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Exactly. He is doubting the autistic obsession the Linux community makes to ensure old forks are still updated. And bless them for that
Trihilis@ani.social 2 months ago
The Deck is a regular computer and you can run any OS on it.
Not having firmware updates doesn’t mean software suddenly stops working on it.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
And on the flip side, I wouldn’t be surprised if software still gets updated as Valve keeps its minimum requirements as low as possible. As long as the drivers work, there isn’t a reason for different editions of the Steam Deck to run different versions.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You‘ll need a community effort to continue driver development.
curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Thats kind of a “yes, and?” sort of statement though.
486 and first gen Pentiums are still supported, though I’d expect not for much longer. But you’re still talking 35 years after release.
Toes@ani.social 1 month ago
It’s funny you mention that.
I’ve been loosely following development around maintaining support for those. (And seeing i686 become the x86 soft target)
It seems we’re entering the era where test units related to these legacy platforms are no longer blockers should they fail. We’re also seeing a mass exodus for support of the x86_64 v1 and v2 feature sets in some distributions and projects.
But that doesn’t mean no one is working on supporting legacy stuff.
www.phoronix.com/…/Linux-6.16-SoundBlaster-AWE32
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yeah, that’s called the Linux Community