Maybe because of all the brigading/harassment campaigns? If it weren’t for that I’d think this is totally fine, since it’s good for people to be able to know more about what they’re buying.
gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But I thought ai users love ai why wouldn’t they want people to know? (:
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Sconrad122@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People are literally murdered IRL for being LGBTQ+. I haven’t seen that be brought up as an argument against having a LGBTQ+ tag on Steam. I think AI users will be OK
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Many people say AI sucks and they hate it? Must be an organized campaign and not just a widely held opinion!
gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Surely ai users know how frequently the technology is used in bad faith and for nefarious purposes
I think having a problem with the backlash is not a valid reason to avoid disclosing ai use.
They should be mature and self aware and have a problem with the people and developers obviously misusing the technology so much instead
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I don’t think using AI to help make a videogame is in any way nefarious or misuse, especially for smaller developers who wouldn’t have the resources to make the game they had in mind otherwise. They don’t deserve to get review bombed or have nasty messages left on all their social media by organized discord groups just because of that, and it’s understandable they’d be worried about it.
catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Indie gamedev existed for years before AI. You can just sit down and make a game. And if you don’t care enough to actually work on it, why would people even spend their money on “your” product?
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Strongly disagree. You’re basically saying smaller developers shouldn’t be punished for theft just because they can’t afford to pay artists.
Ai use, as the article outlined, is based on cultural laundering and IP theft.
So yeah, if you can’t make a game without stealing art, don’t make a game. And if you make a game with stolen art, you absolutely deserve to be review bombed.
And before you say ai generated art isn’t theft, the models are absolutely trained on stolen art
gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Plenty of smaller developers don’t use AI too and we can simply disagree on whether replacing people with ai just so you can make your video game is misuse.
Like is that really even an excuse? I don’t think it’s ok to harass people but if you want to use ai it seems you should accept the social consequences of review bombing given many people do in fact validly see its use as harmful.
Especially when other small developers don’t use it to make games
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I think it is nefarious to use AI and developers who use it should be ashamed. No one is organizing hate campaigns, AI literally is so disliked people will rally against it organically.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
Frankly devs are more likely to get review bombed about ai usage if they tried to hide it. If they’re up front about it then that’s on the users going in to be aware of. Many people don’t like gen ai use at all, but they really hate it when they find out after the fact that it’s been used after thinking otherwise.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 day ago
You’re just make stuff up. Shovelware has always been a thing but I bet you never crowed about Unity being “abused” to make it.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Unity doesn’t work by hoovering up the collected works of humanity, mixing it all up, and extruding it as a paste as a response to a sentence or two prompt (yes, image generation is more complicated to prompt but it is still roughly a paragraph of text).
Look, if you personally don’t see the issue with AI, I still have a hard time believing that you haven’t seen plenty of varied arguments against it. Ignoring all the varied reasons to pretend it’s only some needless hand-wringing at this point just feels like bad faith.
And either way, we’re talking about a tag/label. I see no issues with games having a tab/label/etc on their store page indicating the engine they’re built off of. Some people don’t like horror, puzzles, always online, forced PvP, or a particular art style. Some people don’t like generative AI. I don’t think there’s a strong argument to be made that usage of generative AI should be a special case here. If no one’s harassing people, I see no reason to prevent people from making informed decisions on what they purchase.
If your counterargument is that AI is just a tool, and we don’t tag whether the artists used a mouse or a drawing tablet, I’d counter with this: hand drawn art is a selling point due to the increased workload to create it (and implied extra quality). Now “no generative AI” can be the same. An indicator that things were done “the hard way”, with an implication (but no guarantee) of higher quality.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
Skill issue, either don’t use AI or nut up and ignore the hate. If you have difficulty with either option then replace your computer with a vSmile.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I have recently found a really cool youtube video talking about a reason to not use AI and why some people hate it
Using AI is obviously not nearly deserving of harassment, but, unfortunately, some people on the internet dont know that
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Because AI is a grift for the most part. While you can obviously find the occasional person actually wanting the tech to be more expressive and controllable, most just want to flood the market with slop for their little sidehustle, they saw in a tutorial video.