Comment on Witchfire director says “everybody should attempt to support” Steam Deck as it just makes games better for everyone

thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• MrSoup@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve not read the article, so I don’t know if they specify it, but I thinks it comes to performance too, not just proton-usability. Since you target a “console” rather than whatever you are using to test on, that’s a win for other devices too. I’m just guessing here

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But optimizing for low hardware does not mean its a win for everyone. For lot of people who have strong enough configuration does not care the performance at the portable level. There is no real benefit for them.

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    • MrSoup@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Optimization is good also for hi-tier rigs, since they can run cooler. Don’t see the problem in targeting a specific mid-range device. Lately optimization is not even done right on PlayStation by big developers, it’s just good enough.

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      • Midnitte@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not just run cooler, but smoother too.

        The Moto X was the best phone I’ve ever used, and thays because they took the time to optimize instead of just throwing more RAM/CPU/GPU at the problem.

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Low tier optimization does not mean its running cooloer on higher tier systems. In example if a game requires 16gb of VRAM for high tier setup, then developers optimizing the game alongside for low tier handhelds that have less VRAM will not change the fact for high tier. Therefore not everyone benefits from it. Similar to RayTracing or other features.

        Not everyone benefits from games making run on Steam Deck.

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    • MasterBuilder@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t like the implied sociopaths in that assessment. It smacks of "i got mine, fucck you ". I’m not implying that is your attitude, just pointing out that people who don’t care because it does not affect them overlap the population that is all for fascism because they are in the “in” group and aren’t harmed.

      Building to work well on low-end systems does not take from high-end systems unless the devs don’t take advantage of it when it is available.even then, they are not worse off.

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t know how you can even get to this conclusion from what I said.

        It depends on the optimization for low-end systems that is being done, if it will have an effect to high-end systems. All I say is, that optimizing a game for Steam Deck does not mean it will have an effect to high end machines (btw my system isn’t even high end…, I’m not an elitist). In other replies I tried to give a few examples of what I mean.

        A very simple example would be having low quality textures added to a game, to make it run with the constraints of the Steam Deck (or other low end machines). If the game was already running well at 60 fps with high quality textures, then it will not benefit from option to set low quality textures. And just to make it clear: I am not against optimizations for low end hardware. In fact I own a Steam Deck and love it and my PC is not even high end, some may even say low… (at least the GPU).

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    • TeNppa@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When we are talking about for example 10 years from now it means the people with strong configurations today, will still be able to play new games with the same pc if the games are being targeted to a lower spec (at that time) pcs. So it will benefit everyone and it’s a win for everyone.

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You make some assumptions about who will benefit. And those are not “everyone”.

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