Comment on [Serious] Can a fire atronach, a elemental bound by magic to you, give consent?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 hours agoThere is also Atronachy whereby you are not summoning an atronach, but making your own like a golem.
Comment on [Serious] Can a fire atronach, a elemental bound by magic to you, give consent?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 hours agoThere is also Atronachy whereby you are not summoning an atronach, but making your own like a golem.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 hours ago
Are the atronachs from atronachy and atromancy identical?
If yes, I think consent applies to both. It would be like humans reproducing; a child still has their own agency, even if they were “created” by the parents.
If not… it depends, really. Hypothetically speaking, if you create one through atronachy, and release [it? they?] free, would [it? they?] be able to take autonomous decisions?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 hours ago
Atronachy can create golems from any inanimate material, and it also requires using the soul of a mortal, so it’s probably more like slavery.
In a quest in one of the first two games, you are tasked with destroying one such golem that escaped from the mage’s guild and was rampaging through the countryside. It was created using the soul of one of the local ruling family members and it seemed to have been taking revenge.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 hours ago
Got it — then they have agency, much like anyone else. So they should be able to consent, and to get that consent violated by the spell.
Thanks for the info!