[Serious] Can a fire atronach, a elemental bound by magic to you, give consent?

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I don’t play Elder Scrolls so I had to dig this up.

  Flame atronachs are apparently elemental daedra (divine beings who are not ancestors of human beings, unlike the aedra), summoned through Atromancy. Apparently they are able to make their own decisions, so they have agency.

  But I couldn’t find how much the conjuration process removes their agency; if they’re forced to obey the conjurer’s orders to the letter, if they can creatively interpret those orders, or if it’s a single order.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    There is also Atronachy whereby you are not summoning an atronach, but making your own like a golem.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨50⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Are the atronachs from atronachy and atromancy identical?

      If yes, I think consent applies to both. It would be like humans reproducing; a child still has their own agency, even if they were “created” by the parents.

      If not… it depends, really. Hypothetically speaking, if you create one through atronachy, and release [it? they?] free, would [it? they?] be able to take autonomous decisions?

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• belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What if they consented being my magical slave because they were into it

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• femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I would say no, at best they are an employee.

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