HDMI 2.2 will be announced next month — and it may require a new cable

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• marcos@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  With any luck, everybody goes with DP instead and leaves the HDMI consortium behind as the dinosaurs they are.

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  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    GPUs are mostly all DisplayPort now. It’s rare to see more than one HDMI port on any recent ones. It’s also unusual to see a monitor that doesn’t support DP, especially if it supports high refresh rates.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Do TVs come with DP these days?

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  • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Now that they support audio there is no reason not to use it. HDMI still has more audio channels, but for most applications what DisplayPort offers is enough.

    HDMI still wins on compatibility due to extremely long dominance, but at least TVs and PCs are moving to it now. It has many advantages over HDMI.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I have yet to see a TV with display port

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t know if I’m ready for DP yet, if I try to put them in my hole they don’t fit, I could probably make them fit I don’t know I might be doing something wrong and I do have a hole in the front and the back.

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    • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      have you tried plugging it in the computer instead?

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• tiramichu@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There’s always a whole lot of complaint about USB standards being a mess, and HDMI standards being a mess, and how two identical looking cables give you totally different results from each other.

  And yes that is very true, but I’m still grateful for these standards for giving us 2+ decades of the same ports with evolving capabilities, versus the wild mess of proprietary solutions we had before it.

  In the worst case you can plug a HDMI-looking cable into a HDMI-looking hole and SOMETHING will happen. It might not be as good as you wanted, but it will certainly be something. I’m glad for that.

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• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Cool… So give it a different number. Not a damned point release.

  Why does everyone want to follow the stupidity of USB-IF and make it impossible to know what the damned thing is capable of?

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• subtext@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Kind of a crappy headline, like yeah you’re gonna need a new cable to achieve higher rates. This has been the case with every cable standard ever.

  Whatever the spec brings, that mention of a new cable is a tidy reminder that like USB-C, not all HDMI cables are the same. It seems unlikely that HDMI Forum would change the port itself, so you’ll probably be able to use your old ones with the updated spec, and some might even support its higher bandwidth. Still, there’s always the chance you need fresh cables to get all of the new capabilities when the time comes.

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  • DScratch@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    All Display Port cables are compatible with all versions of the standard.

    Subpar cables may not be able to take advantage of all the features present in a newer version. But if you bought a high quality cable for v1, it would still have full support for 2.1.

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    • acid_falcon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s actually the same ad USB C, as I just learned. The pinout hasn’t changed, so if you have a good quality USB 3.1 cable it’ll work with 3.2x2 just fine

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah. There’s almost always a software update and high end (and sometimes surprises) gain significant bonuses.

    But that has to lineup between both devices and the cable for it to actually manifest.

    Pretty sure most “standard” HDMI you’d see first can handle 4k/120 tho. So it’s doubtful stuff will randomly already be capable of 2.2.

    The article doesn’t seem to guess, but the 120fps is the weak point. I could see 240hz/4k or 120/8k and if you’re real lucky you could push something like 180 on a 2.1.

    But just like, with very rare exceptions there’s no reason to be using HDMI for that type of stuff when other options already exist

    It’s good to see the standard evolve, but it’s more future proofing than anything.

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  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Like yeah you’re gonna need a new cable but also al new devices with new ports. And then hope this time the spec means is fully implementated.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Display Port is going to be far better

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  • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Display Port isn’t typically an option for home entertainment centers and TVs.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You know

      It sucks but HDMI is DRM and thus media conglomerate friendly. They media companies hate open tech.

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• plz1@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m not an A/V pro, but is there any reason HDMI can’t be replaced with USB-C? For one thing, having a symmetrical plug is very nice, and for another, I’m sick of buying new HDMI cables because they don’t have the “features” I want to use. Cables shouldn’t have “features”, they should connect two things that have the features.

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  • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    USB-C won’t help with the “features”, as it has the exact same issue. The new HDMI version requires new cables due to higher transfer rates, the same goes for new USB-C versions. You can’t reach the fastest speeds today with every USB-C data cable.

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• Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hasn’t that always been the case when the standard is updated? I’ve already had to upgrade HDMI cables several times over the past 20 years.

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