ill never understand how jack fucking dorsey is regrifting the internet AGAIN with a centralized censorship engine.
fuck this dude entirely
Bluesky suspending antifascist researchers for sharing publicly available information about literal nazis.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by cm0002@mander.xyz to technology@lemmy.zip
https://kolektiva.social/@alissaazar/115781985482592177
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Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sam@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure he has nothing to do with bluesky. i think he’s into nostr now.
73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Nothing might be going too far. He left the board since it wasn’t good PR for them but Bluesky is not transparent about its ownership and Dorsey could well still have a stake in it.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
that might explain why nostr is filled with rypto bros and racists. nostr world is toxic
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because for Americans when something went wrong it can never be a systemic issue by design. It was because all the fault of a person.
See also why they keep voting Democrat.(but this time fresh new blood will change it for real!)
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He doesn’t own or work at Bluesky
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He founded it, but he did indeed leave in 2024, i missed that bit of news
1uddy@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Fuck bluesky.
Anyone using it over Mastodon to protest twitter is a moron.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Obay but can I use mastodon in a way that let’s me choke on corporate dick? Because choking on corporate dick is kind of my favorite thing. Whole reason inhere.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I use both, more voices against shit like this is good. I just recently logged into both accounts to protest Barri Weiss and her Trump ball licking.
BossDj@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
He got banned for doxxing? Is that right?
I never trust anyone who says “I got banned from for saying _”. I’ve never seen that claim match the reality of what happened. I hope he posted proof somewhere at some point
*I don’t use Bluesky
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I don’t think sharing publicly available documents constitutes doxxing
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Even if it is, doxxing nazis is a good thing.
rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 2 weeks ago
shouldn’t really surprise anyone. Didn’t their CEO like several months ago pretty much defend a known fascist/tranphob on the platform and essentially told people who complained about it to “not post” out of protest? Also Bluesky is extremely quick to bend to the whims of whatever government body makes demands. They were one of the first sites to quickly implement age verification in the UK I believe.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Also Bluesky is extremely quick to bend to the whims of whatever government body makes demands. They were one of the first sites to quickly implement age verification in the UK I believe.
LOL what did you expect them to do, exactly? They can either comply with the law or be fined to death. Those are their choices.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Well, I expected them to capitulate while shuddering and moaning, but I would expect a not-shit company to not lead the pack at the very least.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This is lemmy, the expectation is you are so out of touch with reality you think a US-hosted service won’t get fucked over in a heartbeat by the US government.
BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Lol imagine being such a fucken sycophant you post this garbage 😂
iloveDigit@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
There are no bans on nostr. And we desperately need more antifa to drown out the 3 white supremacists we can’t ban
morto@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Oh my, what’s that thing? I tried nostr earlier this year after reading about their tech side and finding it interesting, but then I met their human side and… it was shocking (I lack words to properly explain the feeling). Most posts were (in order of cryptocurrency praising like it’s 2015, bashing on leftism, some weird humor I didn’t understand (maybe it was better not to understand), anti-government stuff, racist memes and a (maybe lost) user that posted some beautiful photos they took as amaetur photography practice. I literally stopped scrolling and uninstalled it when I saw a post claiming that pasteurizing milk is a genocide and an act from the government against us (the other users were even endorsing it!)
iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Definitely a good technology overrun with cultists. Better content curation tools & more users will fix it
Heads up, I sometimes post screenshots of replies like this as examples of how nostr looks to outsiders, because those cultists act confused about why no one joins
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You have a bunch of white supremacists because there are no bans…
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
What authority consistently bans white supremacists at scale?
White supremacists are the eternal allies of the very concept of authority.
iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Except we can do shit about it, because there are no bans. That’s what you have backwards and that’s how they trick you into letting them increasingly take ownership of every discussion space in society
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Oh no, surprise, censorship on a centralized platform. No one saw that coming.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wow if we can’t trust me jack dorsey who can we even trust anymore‽
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
did anyone actually trusted jack dorsey?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
more than you’d think…
whitecollarcry@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
stop using their happy little fascist platform
Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I knew bluesky was absolutely fucked when I check it once and it was literally giving billionaires screen time over regular users to simp for trump. X is full fash , bluesky is fash lite
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Devil’s advocate:
You can either protect everyone’s privacy, or you can protect no one’s.
Doxxing is a privacy issue. It’s not “okay if it’s someone you don’t like”. I’m sure if the tables were reversed and people on the right had doxxed a bunch of left-leaning people, the left would be up-in-arms about it, demanding that it be removed and for the people who posted it to be suspended. But because they’re far-right, it’s suddenly okay?
I hate the far-right, don’t get me wrong. But get off the high-horse. Companies can either protect everyone from doxxing, or they can protect no one from doxxing. There’s no in-between just because the people being doxxed are people you find repugnant.
blueryth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The problem playing devil’s advocate is you’re defending the devil. Running to the all or nothing edge is simply an attempt to end the discussion. “If Nazis can’t have privacy, nobody can.” There is an in-between, and conveniently it’s called moderation.
Are we equally of the opinion that hate speech should not be moderated? Are threats without action to be defended unilaterally? It’s not important what the answers are, it’s that there is a world in between absolutist ideals. There are alternatives. We can discuss them.
Companies are also capable of navigating this space, and should be responsible for doing so if they are entitled to their platform. The idea that their hands are tied to all or nothing is ignorant if not apologist. If the best you can do with 10’s of millions of dollars is helplessness, perhaps you deserve all the criticism. The devil needs better attorneys.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
PSA: Sharing that information was almost certainly a GDPR violation in the EU. It may also have been a criminal offense under German law (§128a StGB).
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Please gtfo with those nasty facts. This is Lemmy.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Personal data in official documents which police reports falls under are explicitly excluded by article 86.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not quite. Such official documents may be published by the government, but only if provided by law. It doesn’t mean that the data may be used by others.
EU data protection activists are fighting against such transparency rules. I’m thinking of Noyb’s lawsuit against the Swedish government, in particular. Sweden has a very strong tradition of transparency.
That German law was explicitly made to criminalize such lists compiled from public data. If the context suggests that the information is meant to enable illegal harm to the people, then it’s criminal to publish the information. In the German understanding, that is fighting Nazis because Nazis create such lists of their enemies.
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Sharing publicly available information is a GDPR violation? Wouldn’t that be on the person who originally made the info public.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
GDPR works like copyright in that regard. Just because someone publishes something, doesn’t mean you may re-publish it.
This data is especially problematic since it is about people’s political views. That’s defined as sensitive data. By default, it is a violation to even create or store such data at all, even if you kept it private. You could only do that legally if you benefit from specific exceptions.
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Bsky hates its users
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 weeks ago
🎻
Cruel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I strongly doubt they were banned for posting a police report.
DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That place came and went for me in a matter of days. It’s yet another shithole compromised by billionaires. There is a never ending supply of Americans who when contacted with $$$$$$$$$ offers, take them to sell out our Democracy.
THESE people should be the first to wear blindfolds when finding out their sentence.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
BlueSky users?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
[deleted]Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meta doesnt own Bluesky, you’re thinking of Threads.
73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
no that was in fact the Bluesky CEO. See: techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/
IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I'm completely against doxxing. But there were public reports. That's censorship.
misk@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That’s also what many other social media would do because it’s easier to ban posting of personal information regardless of where it came from because you can’t trust moderation you outsourced to some third world country to do proper checks.
Example:
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043066452-Is-posting-someone-s-private-or-personal-information-okay
73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
can always come up with rationalizations but the fact remains there are other platforms that will not “cost optimize” it away.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Bullshit. They’re just protecting Nazis. A competent programmer could write an algorithm to knock out the low hanging fruit, like public Facebook pages, in about five minutes.
Might take me a couple hours. Someone genuinely good and familiar with the space would have been done in less time than it took to write this comment.
IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
That doesn't change the aspect of it being censorship. It just means that a risk adverse company is risk adverse to the degree that they will employ censorship to maintain that aversion to risk. At the end of the day, it's censorship. The rationale for why they've employed it is notwithstanding.