Submitted 9 months ago by NeryK@sh.itjust.works to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
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Well, shit. Unfortunate news from the Vinegar Discord: Roblox will block Wine in future releases.
This is going to end my “Steam Deck as a primary desktop PC for my kid” experiment.
Some people just hate fun, it seems.
Roblox kids are future Linux admins, anyway. May as well let them get started under Wine.
How do you even block wine? It’s a compatibility layer? Even if you block it someone will just add a fix to get around it eventually won’t they?
I do not know, but the Vinegar people give it straight:
Also last time around Wine support was broken for like 6 months and no one found a workaround. It was Roblox devs who re-enabled it later.
Why does that post sound like: "Fuck off! …and do nicely without causing a fuss…please.
Why block Wine? It’s gotta be a tiny fraction of their user base.
There’s a gamingonlinux article which might explain a bit.
Very roughly, a few alterations to the anticheat to make it work on Wine made some of the anticheat’s workings apparent, which in turn allowed people to work out new exploits.
Wine is an excellent tool for reverse engineering. Additionally, we had to disable many antitamper checks to make Hyperion run on Wine. This has allowed interested parties to learn a lot about the internal workings of Hyperion, relevant to both Win32 and UWP. As the initial shock of Hyperion’s release started wearing off, many people have begun discovering the various angles through which one can learn more about the inner workings of Hyperion.
As to why all the anticheat stuff matters so much, I’m not quite sure.
As to why all the anticheat stuff matters so much, I’m not quite sure.
it’s probably not about anti-cheat but something with collecting data which is probably easier when you install a rootkit
2 big reasons I’ve seen.
First is idiot csuite/suits at the top who think linux = haxxing and they somehow lose business by supporting them.
Second is kind of true, that people have trouble running on linux and go to official forums asking for help, or leave negative reviews that they couldn’t get it to work, which isn’t fair to the developer.
Wasn’t it unofficial support? The kind of “at your own risk” stuff linux users get from everywhere.
It’s not hard to dual boot with Windows. I set it up with one of these:
What if I don’t want to use windows? What if I find windows to be buggy and unstable and all around just unpleasant to use? What if I don’t want to have to reboot my PC every time I get the slightest urge to play shitty simulators or one of the millions of backrooms games?
Some applications just require Windows. You have to acknowledge that if you’re going to use a non-Windows device.
I have the same discussion with my wife every time some website doesn’t work. “Are you using a real browser or are you in Safari?”
I wonder if it’s possible to get running via waydroid, ofc, not really an option on SteamOS, but outside of that.
This is going to end my “Steam Deck as a primary desktop PC for my kid” experiment.
dual booting windows is always an option…
wolfruff@pawb.social 9 months ago
And nothing of value was lost
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
It’s an extremely popular platform for kids, and I think anything that will get kids trying Linux instead of windows is something we should want working.