US operating system age verification bill "Parents Decide Act" gets published

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• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The bill H. R. 8250 actually seems somewhat reasonable, especially compared to some other state-specific bills that we’ve seen.

  No.

  Software code is free speech and the government should not be able to regulate what the people do in software code in such a way.

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  • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah what is this shit

    There currently exists no solution I am aware of that is enforceable enough and privacy preserving for age verification.

    We are banking on this being non-enforceable. Great. Why are we doing this again? Fuck the people who wrote this bill and those who voted for it.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      those who voted for it

      nobody did yet, it has only been introduced; lots of bills get introduced all the time and end up not being passed

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    • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sovereign_identity

      Is this not good enough?

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• Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Parents were already able to decide. They mostly choose not to.

  How much did this cost us?

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  • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It cost your privacy

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh please. That’s neat and all but no one has had privacy since the Kaczynski days.

      I want to know how much money the two party people have pissed away on this nothingburger.

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• athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Parents Decide Act”

  Alright then. I decide not to comply.

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• melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is bizarre. Why would they force people under 18 to verify their birth date, but if you’re over 18 you can just enter your birth date with no verification?

  Usually you only care about verifying the age of people over 18. What’s this law trying to accomplish by only verifying children?

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  • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is bizarre.

    It’s a path to knowing who everyone is, online.

    Knowing who everyone is online is a path to accidental falls from third story windows for people who advocate for taxing billionaires.

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    • melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Except as written, it’s only a path to knowing who all children are, not the adults who are usually the ones advocating for taxing billionaires. Sure, they might change the law, but that doesn’t make starting it this way any less bizarre. I don’t understand what reason there would be to make it harder to make a child account than an adult account by only IDing children.

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  • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🫢you could order a beer without consent of parents if you are 18

    (European Sarcasm)

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• BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What if parents decide the don’t want anyone verifying the age of their children?

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  • krisevol@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What does that have to do with the bill?

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• Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I understand it like you have to force the user to input a date, but I see no requirement that this date has to be verified by the OS to be correct?

  And if a user enters a date less than 18 years ago, another account with a date more than 18 years ago has to verify that date

  So, what stops a user who is not 18 just enter an older date?

  Each app just uses the date set in OS as verification, which honestly is better than each app having to ask for the date individually…

  Don’t understand me wrong, I don’t like age verification at all, I would prefer a bill that allows to flag a user as “kid” and allow/deny categories like social media, payments, adult content etc.

  Like an extension of the admin/user setup we already have

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  • a4ng3l@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    See you highlight the issue yourself ; forcing the websites to expose data allowing an initial set of restrictions. Once those are in place extending them beyond the initial « doing the parent’s job » scope is trivial. The infrastructure will be available to block any content.

    Once those headers become mandatory to deliver content the days to http freedom are over.

    Eventually the system will enforce the correctness of such headers in a way that piracy will be added. Then assisted death and lgbtq topics; I saw propositions along those lines already.

    I remember one of those discussions involving European isps representative ; who is to decide on those tags and which to block? Why would 16 yo not being able to discuss a topic or reach out for help on sensitive topics? At what age are they individually mature enough for those topics ?

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• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They sure know how to pick the names.
  I remember the Freedom act.
  Without knowing anything about this I’m going to boldly assume it probably means the opposite of parents deciding

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• the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  everyone is about to be born on 1/1/1900

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  • CaptObvious@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can’t wait til DOGE doofuses get hold of that!

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