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- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
I may have gotten in a stealth edit addendum right after you actually read that comment, more detail about potentially dual booting Bazz and StmOS
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
Well, afaik, PopOS! does not have a … handheld PC oriented flavor, so… you could get it to work, but likely only via a dock, keyboard and mouse and monitor.
It may partially work, to some extent, as a handheld, but it won’t be able to… leave desktop mode, basically, unless you manually figure out how to set up everything you need for that game mode transition.
Bazzite on the other hand… comes with all that prebuilt in, is designed around that as a fundamental principle.
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
Part 1:
Yep. The Deck and SteamOS have Secure Boot.
I never said they did not.
I said:
The Steam Deck does not officially support Windows Secure boot.
Because…
Basically, Secure Boot means that … no other OS is allowed to boot.
That’s what ‘Secure’ means, to Windows/MSFT.
Not sure if you struggle with reading comprehension in English, but when you read all of this, together, it is obvious that I am saying that the Windows specific implenentation of Secure Boot is exclusionary, only works with Windows.
This is true, by default, unless you do a bunch of other extra work, which is easy to fuck up and likely to fail at some future point, because the way Windows ‘does’ Secure Boot is very different from how basically every other OS does, and will constantly change in subtle and esoteric ways that often result in a user being unable to access any other OS than Windows.
Windows Secure Boot is thus functionally a distinct thing, even if Windows/MSFT act otherwise and insist on confusing and obfuscatory terminology… which they have a long track record of doing with basically all of their software and related nomenclature, for decades.
Part 2:
Yep, which is why I described that in layman’s terms by saying:
maybe unless you have literally physically distinct harddrives/ssds/microsd/usb drives that each OS lives on?
And then do extra steps to tell your now Windows managed BIOS/UEFI that your linux dual boot OS is also ‘safe’ for Windows to allow your sysyem to boot?
Yep, you can do some extra bullshit, and it might work for a while, untill a new Windows update of some kind rewrites your UEFI config, requires some new arcane dependency setting or config of some kind, which then will lock out your non Windows OS.
Yep, other Mobos often come with everything preconfigured for Windows and their specific implenentation of Secure Boot.
The Steam Deck doesn’t, and that is what we are talking about.
Also, its entirely possible and even common for dual boot and linux users to either intentionally or unintentionally wipe out those Windows EFI files, alter the crypotgraphic signing process in some other way, and then you run into this same problem on other Mobos.
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
My suggestion would be wait for a seasonal sale, I think I got it for like 5 or 10 bucks lol.
Also there is a TitanFall 2 lemmy comm:
titanfall@lemmy.world
… I dunno how to link it right, I’m on mobile lol
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
No problem!
Yeah, dual booting Win and Lin is… basically a trap at this point, I first tried to do it over a decade now…
There really is no need anymore, beyond very specific uses cases, to run Windows at all.
Linux caught up and has now exceeded it in basically everyway, as Windows has also enshittified.
I would suggest you look into just switching your Deck over to Bazzite.
From a basic user stand point, it is highly functional and performant, gives you more flexibility and utilities than default SteamOS, and you can even set up a linux container as a dev environment to do linux dev stuff, use Bottles or something if you need something closer to a Windows environment.
Yeah, its still not gonna play those few, super hyped and marketed AAA games… but fuck em, they’re evil corpos, stop giving them your time and money.
…
And I just made another suggestion to you in another comment:
You want BF style game(play)?
TitanFall 2. Still alive, still alive, got a reverse engineered server browser and private servers, runs great on linux via Proton.
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
If you’re looking for something fairly close to (and imo arguably better) BF1 and 4…
TitanFall 2.
Got its own custom Proton branch, Northstar and other variants of basically the same thing, wrap around and launch the game, working private servers and mod support, you can run it on Windows or Linux, actually runs really well on a Steam Deck… might have something to do eith using an actually good engine, its basically a fork of the Portal 2 version of Source.
Its a small, but active community.
- Comment on [Help] Steam Deck OLED | Windows 10 Dual Boot | How to Enable Secure Boot 1 day ago:
So, Secure Boot for Windows is basically a mode of running your system that cryptographically links your Windows OS to the BIOS/UEFI… and the way that this works is almost always incompatible with a dual boot setup that includes Linux… maybe unless you have literally physically distinct harddrives/ssds/microsd/usb drives that each OS lives on?
The Steam Deck does not officially support Windows Secure boot.
Because…
Basically, Secure Boot means that … no other OS is allowed to boot.
That’s what ‘Secure’ means, to Windows/MSFT.
There are basically workaround hacks to attempt to get Win 10 Secure Boot working on a Deck, but they are not official, unsupported, could break at any time with any Windows update.
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So yeah, you cannot do a Win 10 + Linux dual boot where that Win 10 boot is also ‘Secure’, at the same time.
If you start with a dual boot config, and then manage to enable secure boot for Win 10… chances are very high that Win 10 will then reconfigure your boot config to disable dual boot, it’ll wipe out GRUB, and now your linux stuff … is still there, but you can’t access it.
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This isn’t really a direct answer to your question, but MSFT and … more or less, everything it touches, hardware, software… have been making it harder and harder to successfully dual boot Windows and Linux for over a decade now.
If you or others in this thread somehow can figure this out, in a reliably stable way, well, that’s honestly impressive…
But imo, it isn’t worth the effort.
Any game update, or Windows update, or Mobo firmware level BIOS/UEFI update… could blow up your entire solution, because your entire solution basically by definition is actually going to be a hacky workaround that tricks Win 10 into thinking it is Secure Boot mode, when it actually isn’t.
MSFT really, really wants you to use its virtualized version of linux (WSL), or run a linux VM, but keep everything on bare metal Windows.
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All that being said:
github.com/ryanrudolfoba/SecureBootForSteamDeck
You may or may not be able to get this to work, but absolutely back up your entire linux system and every personal document and file and program on it, back it up to another physical drive of some kind before you do it, as you should expect more or less catastrophic failure if anything goes wrong, like fucking up a ROM flash of a smartphone.
- Comment on After laying off 9,000 employees , Microsoft records $27.2 billion profit in latest quarter 1 week ago:
No, no.
The vast, vast majority of MSFT ‘employees’ are contractors, V dashes, A dashes, etc, who functionally keep working different MSFT contracts over and over again, but get paid far less than actual salaried, proper employees with stock options.
MSFT will string along these contractors along with what you are saying ‘do well and we’ll hire you and pay the big bucks’, and in reality this basically never happens.
This institutional, pathological reliance on contractors over traditional employees is a huge reason why MSFT’s work culture is so toxic, why MSFT’s management is so incompetent, and why their products seems more and more like a bunch layers of inefficient and buggy spaghetti code worked on by hundreds of random people with no core design principles.
Because they are.
- Comment on Researchers Jailbreak AI by Flooding It With Bullshit Jargon 4 weeks ago:
Oh so it works by corpospeak rules, who could have possibly guessed?
It is extremely funny to watch two corpospeakers get into a buzzword fight as a dominance dispute/display.
- Comment on What is your favorite Steam deck Bluetooth keyboard? 4 weeks ago:
I don’t yet have it, but I’m looking at getting a Royal Kludge 70 RKS.
USB Wired / Bluetooth / 2.4 Ghz Chicklet
Has a 3150 mAh battery, claims to be able to hold a charge for two weeks of wireless usage.
Also, is split.
So… you could more easily use it while say, reclining, or use it for better ergonomics in a sitting position, also each half has 4 adjustable little leg thingymabobs to further get an ergonomically optimal wrist angle.
OP, if you’re looking for a larger one, RK does make larger, mechanical keyboards, but not any that have say, a full numpad that also split apart.
Also again, grain of salt with all of this, I’ve not actually ever owned or used this KB, I am just also in a ‘looking for a Steam Deck / PC keyboard’ phase, and so far this one seems the best to me.
- Comment on How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking 5 weeks ago:
I have a steam deck and figured out how to emulate BoTW.
I was initially disappointed by my inability to get it to run at better than roughly 20-25 fps even after some tweaks and bullshit.
… Then I realized that the Switch 1, in handheld mode… can’t actually do much better, claims to run at 30fps, frequently has framerate drop spikes.
So yeah, a Deck does a pretty good job, as has always been the case with emulators: its a bit less efficient than the native hardware env on the most demanding titles, but a Switch 1 can barely fucking run BoTW properly as well.
My next attempt at this?
See if I can jerry rig FSR 2 in the emulator to run it at a lower res and then upscale.
- Comment on How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking 5 weeks ago:
Knock knock, Nintendo.
Suprise!
Its the Consumer Protection and Defense agency of Brazil!
dexerto.com/…/nintendo-faces-legal-action-over-ab…
Yeah, Brazil is evidently not cool with the ‘we can completely brick your device remotely’ schtick.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
AMD open sources their drivers too.
Ah, right, duh.
Ok so yeah, uh… the Z2 Extreme supposedly is going to have some kind of ‘AI’ functionality or additional component… god knows what that means…
Theoretically it could be more difficult for open source devs to fully leverage that, even if the drivers are open source…
But yeah, for the rest of it, it probably would not take much time at all given that Bazzite and SteamOS already run on the last generation of the same chips.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
Damn.
I’d never heard of any of that.
Thanks for letting me know!
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
I’m sorry, I don’t follow… what?
I am talking about the mass FPV drone attacks Ukraine just did inside Russia, by rigging up a bunch of semi-trucks as essentially road borne aircraft carriers.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
Pretty much exactly.
There are so, so many tech bros who build their identity around not being replacable… when in fact, they are.
Then their identity collapses and they become crypto bros, some other kind of obvious start-up scammers…
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
I end up using the stick for movement, the pad for aiming.
And, due to a hand/wrist injury… switched the aiming to the left pad, and movement to the right stick, and then the right trigger is still fire, and the right track pad is a 4 way gated set of ‘buttons’.
In desktop, ive got the left pad moving the mouse, up click on the right pad is left click, down click on the right pad is right click… and then any kind of click on the left pad is screen zoom.
Yep, its weird, but I love it lol.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
Its much more real than you think.
… What do you think an FPV aerial drone control set up looks like?
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
Sorry, I edited in more details after you replied.
But uh yeah, as you yourself have said… MSFT is very good at being secretive and opaque… even internally, there is a massive culture of compartmentalizing information, to say nothing of outward facing info.
I would say that untill independent reviewers get their hands on these things to do teardowns and benchmarks, trust nothing, all their claims are just marketing BS.
Im not saying this version of Windows won’t be better than mainline Windows.
I am saying I’ll eat a sock if it ends up being even as efficient as SteamOS or Bazzite in a same hardware same game same settings frame rate test of 20ish modern games.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
I mean, I can’t of course prove anything, but uh.
I used to work for MSFT.
I very much doubt thet are capable of meaningfully streamlining Windows.
And uh also no, no, the SteamOS Benchmarks came out less than a week before this announcement.
This announcement means they have been working on this project for a year or so, at least, and just haven’t publically mentioned anything definitive untill now.
They already have the whole thing designed and agreemenrs worked out with all the mfg partners involved.
You don’t do a public announcement for a release in a few months unless you’ve got the assembly line and logistics systems in place ready to start cranking these things out after maybe a few more weeks of minor touchups.
- Comment on Microsoft dives into the handheld gaming PC wars with the Asus ROG Xbox Ally 1 month ago:
So… if this device does not come with some kind of even more locked down than normal bootloader/uefi/tpm system…
We know that SteamOS is roughly 15% faster at running games, 15% more fps in a same for same hardware and game settings comparison.
They say its running a stripped down (aka debloated) version of Win 11, but frankly, I call bullshit.
Sure, it may take a bit for proper driver support to be developed for the new Z2 apus… but uh…
You can just buy this thing, wipe out windows, flash SteamOS or Bazzite onto it, and get more FPS, and now you basically exist in the SteamOS ecosystem (or also GOG or whatever).
At that point, MSFT has functionally built a product that will be used on their competitor’s ecosystem… when the whole point of this thing is to keep people in the Xbox ecosystem.
Uh, also… does this thing come with CoPilot?
Is it just gonna be or at least be capable of … snapping automatic acreen grabs of everything you are doing, all the time?
- Comment on [Game] Doom the Dark Ages will not run well on steam deck at release 2 months ago:
I’m honestly quite interested to see how well the Switch 2 handles CP77.
Also, I edited a bit and added more to my comment likely as or after you made yours.
hardwaretimes.com/doom-the-dark-ages-gpu-benchmar…
This says a 4060ti can do Dark Ages at about 50fps at 1080p.
Looking at other benchmarks, it … oddly looks like the 8gb vs 16gb version of the 4060ti perform essentially exactly the same
I mean I guess that counts if you’re a 1080p person… I tend to think of 1440p 60fps, everything on ‘ultra’, as a minimum threshold these days for ‘running ray tracing well’, as raytracing becomes exponentially more performance costly as you go above 1080p… which is the whole reason modern frame upscaling and framegen had to be invented.
A 4060ti cannot run Doom Dark Ages, 1440p at 60 fps. Unless you turn down some other graphics settings… I am not seeing that in any benchmarks.
If 1080p is your benchmark than sure, I guess a 4060ti can almost run at 60 fps.
Also… I am using currently actually existing prices, not MSRP, as my basis for the previous statement.
There are very, very few 4060tis (16gb) actually available new right now, $600 is the lowest US price I am seeing, though there are a good number on eBay going for around $550, so I guess there’s another technical ‘you got me on that one.’
- Comment on [Game] Doom the Dark Ages will not run well on steam deck at release 2 months ago:
The only stuff that can run ray tracing well (60fps or better, well) are currently GPUs that cost … $600 if you’re lucky, more like starting at $825 or $850, going up to $2000+.
This is independent of AMD or Nvidia, at this point. Yes, you can get better RT out of an Nvidia card, but you’ll be paying significantly more.
What you mean to say is: Games with forced RT instead of actual graphics options force you into the Nvidia monopoly.
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Handhelds can’t handle RT.
Like just none, barring adding on an eGPU.
Switch 2 could be an exception, but I doubt it’ll be able to do more than 30fps with RT on, with say, Cyberpunk 2077.
The only reason consoles can handle RT at all is because they use checkerboard rendering, which is basically sort of a mix between using interpolated frames and also upscaling.
480p fully renders each frame, 480i only updates half the pixels on the screen each frame, usually with alternating scanlines.
Checkerboard rendering is more or less another way of doing that, but in a checkerboard pattern, that also upscales by a factor of two… so when a console says its outputting at 4k, thats true, but it isn’t rendering at 4k.
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The steam deck overlay does have a half rate shader rendering option, I have found this helpful in certain games/emulators… though sometimes it makes too much of the game look like too much ass, when it is either heavily reliant on shaders and/or they are wildly unoptimized.
It is theoretically possible that this option could help at least somewhat… the author mentions trying deckyframegen on a game that just came out, apparently having no idea that decky framegen needs time to… you know, incorperate some other mod that figures out how to hack FSR into the game, or do it themselves.
Either that, or go into the game’s config files and see if there is some value or toggle that can be flipped to just actually turn RT off… which I guess at this point just is what people would and have called a ‘graphics mod’ for many other games where something like this is done.
