i cant wait to get a steam frame

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨helimopp@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨steamdeck@sopuli.xyz⁩

i was gonna get a quest 3 for christmas but then the steam frame got announced and i was like HELL NAH and thew my quest 3 ideas out of the window. if everything falls into place il have my steam frame just intime for my birthday :D

gone will the days where i will be kicked from vrc lobbies for being a “Questie”. gone will be the days of my game crashing mid snuggle session, gone the days of having a lowkey mid game selection (apart from like metro awakening as if i was gonna get the quest 3 i would have 100% gotten that game)

cant wait to get ittttt (also i cant wait to play half life alyx on it)

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Lemmchen@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yeah, the Steam Frame is one of those things where no matter what it’ll end up costing (realistically) I’m going to buy one.

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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  i feel like steam is gonna sell them at a good price even if they are gonna make a loss on them, because gaben is tuff like that
  
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  - erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    They are definitely not selling the Gabe cube at a loss. The steam deck could be sold at a loss, because people will buy steam games for it, but the steam machine is a PC, and there would be nothing stopping, for example, corporations buying thousands as cheap workstations that will never see a single steam purchase.
    
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  - Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I’m fully expecting this to be triple the price of the Quest 3S.
    
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- deacon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  At the moment that statement applies to all 3 products.
  
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markz@suppo.fi ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Me too. From what I’ve heard meta hardware is great, but I wouldn’t take it even if they gave it to me for free.

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- Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I’d rather go without VR than get a meta headset which is why I haven’t had one for years despite interest in it. I plan to get steam frame. Not sure if at launch if price is too steep, but eventually if it gets discounted after a year.
  
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  - hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Same. I would never buy a quest, and the frame is what I was hoping something like it would come along.
    
    Except I made the mistake of telling this to my buddy, boisterously, in a group. And he had apparently bought one awhile back and didn’t tell anyone 🙃
    
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- dumbluck@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  ELI haven’t been following VR at all (because i haven’t). Why is Quest trash, specifically? It sounds like Frame is little more than a VR display for the Steam Box/gaming PC. Am I grossly misunderstanding the situation?
  
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  - Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The frame is a gaming computer in its own right but can also be used as a display. There’s nothing wrong with the Quest from a technological standpoint. It’s just that you’re forced into the closed Meta ecosystem in order to use it. Many people don’t want to be there these days. Steam hardware tends to be open and moddable. Let’s hope they keep that up with the upcoming products.
    
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  - pory@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The main (and big) reason to not touch Quest is Facebook. It’s Facebook hardware running Facebook software and everything you do is tied to a Facebook account. VR is a novelty, I don’t think it’s a novelty worth using Facebook or buying a $900+ piece of hardware for (and most non Quests have their own restrictions).
    
    Plus as far as I know, Quest doesn’t work very well as a PCVR headset. So instead of my $2000 gaming PC, I’d be playing these ultra high resolution high refresh rate games on what’s functionally a phone. Frame is designed as PCVR-first.
    
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  - markz@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Meta does all kinds of creepy shit, like using the cameras to compile a list of items in your home. I’d rather not do VR at all than use Meta, no matter how good it is.
    
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  - Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I fucking hate mine but I can’t stop playing beat saber. I only play the pc version with wivrn over wifi. It keeps forcing me into the little virtual scene thing when I would only ever want passthrough, some updates make tracking worse and beatsaber unplayable, controllers are super slippy and easy to drom/throw, management phone app spams you with ads/‘reccomendations’, never remembers my window setup and always forces me on to the store or socials by default and I have no friends that would use any fb/meta gaming socials, default face gasket is awful and I tried an alt strap and lost the original when the most comfortable setup I’ve since tried on someone else’s headset was alt gasket and default strap. Probably other stuff I’ve forgotten.
    
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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  honestly, we wouldnt be having this conversation if the controler replacemants where cheap (which they are not) so i figure whats the point of getting replacement controllers when i can just get like uhhhhhhh a completely new headset
  
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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
My Quest 2 is fucken garbage when using Steam Link and it never was before. No idea whats going down. I cant wait for the Steam Frame and Controllers. Its going to be so wonderful gaming on Linux.

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- Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Every update just breaks something a little more. I literally only want a Frame for the software. If I could flash the Quest 3 to run the Frame’s OS? I’d risk bricking my headset to do so. Fuck Meta.
  
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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  yeahhhh. i hope the controllers wont beak as easily as my quest ones. my controllers have the opposite of stick drift where until i push it rlly hard, the sticks wont input, if they even input. also they like to force my chaarcter backward when im pushing forward on my stick so yeah. movement based games aint that good on my quest anymore.
  
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daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Every time I see a post about it, I’m hoping the pre-orders opened. Fucking take my money already!!

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Lydia_K@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Hey, you do realize that the steam frame isn’t going to have enough horsepower to run full pcvr vrchat on it’s own right? You’ll still be about to run the Android version, but that’s just the quest version still.

Now if you plan to stream from your full gaming PC it’ll be great, but realize that the frame itself is a little less powerful than a steamdeck which can barely handle full PC VRChat in desktop mode.

Don’t get me wrong, day one purchase for me too.

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- Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Bruh, my PC designed for VR barely runs VRChat.
  
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  - Lydia_K@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    100% accurate.
    
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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  ok so do you want me to get the steam frame or not
  
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  - Lydia_K@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I just want you to understand what it can and can’t do, if you buy it expecting to get a full pcvr experience out of it without streaming from a PC then you are going to be disappointed.
    
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SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Some finance stuff fell through recently for me and I will no longer be getting any of the steam hardware when it comes out. Maybe next year.

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- samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Was interested in a Steam Machine, but it will probably cost $1000 with the way parts are going. Looks like I’ll be sticking with my old hardware for the foreseeable future!
  
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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Image the stock market crashed :(
  
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  - SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    No, uh, unfortunately for me, my healthcare was politicized and made illegal and now it’s bankrupting me
    
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MIDItheKID@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’ve never had a VR headset, and this is the first one I am considering as it feels like we are finally out of “First Gen” VR and we have moved into the product space of VR that is not clunky and burdonsome.

With that said - convince me to get one.

I have a killer PC for playing at my desk, and a Steamdeck for playing on my couch. What will I actually gain? I don’t really have the space in my apartment for things that require moving around, and I don’t really care for VRchat type social experiences. Is there anything about the platform that I will actually use, or will it become an expensive dust collector hanging on the side of my desk? I have a hard time coming up with something that will actually add value. The only thing I really want to play is Half Life Alyx because I love the series and it’s the only thing I haven’t played.

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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  if you dont get one i will come for you in your sleep
  
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Well he would get a VR headset to play VR games. If you’re not going to play VR games on the VR headset then it really isn’t worth you getting one.
  
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  - MIDItheKID@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yeah but what are some good VR games? This is the part I am having a hard time justifying. I never hear about good VR games. Beatsaber? Super Hot? Like… I love the Steamdeck because there is a plethora of 10/10 indie games that run awesome on it. It feels to me like the VR game library is very lacking in that sense. Like are there “Must play - 10/10” games that are VR only? What is the “Hollow Knight” of VR?
    
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- Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The hardware is maybe no longer first gen but the games still are. Most feel like tech demos. The tech has been around long enough that you can start with an ok selection, but the space feels dead with almost no new launches of note or on the horizon.
  
  I think most people that use their headset regularly do it for the social experiences and maybe porn.
  
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- ChillPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Depends on your interests. There is definitely more limited game selections. But there are quite a few good ones. I’ve been playing valve Index for a few years now.
  
  I thoroughly enjoy it.
  
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radiouser@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I think (just like with the Deck) I’m going to wait for a year or two and let you brave Guinea Pigs let me know if they’re worth getting.

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- eldain@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You can also wait for an impulsive guinea pig to sell it to you “as new, barely used” by then. Even cheaper if a successor is out.
  
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UnfairUtan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Same. Just sold my Index in anticipation

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- isthereanydeal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Why tho ? They’ll have to remove my knuckles from my dead hands!! I plan to make the knuckles work with the frame in any case. But yes. I’m buying the frame and the controller, no doubts about that either
  
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  - UnfairUtan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I moved to a new place where it’s a bit annoying to set up. Since then I haven’t use it more than 2 times per year…
    
    I’m 100% sure that I’ll use the Frame more often and will enjoy the ease of use
    
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- LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Same! Still got a decent price for it and I barely used it anymore. I’m happy to abstain from VR until I get that fresh new hardware.
  
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  - UnfairUtan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I’m curious, how much did you sell it for?
    
    Mine had a few wear signs, so I sold it for 400€, but I saw listing as high as 650
    
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chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Uh…what was that about a snuggle session? LOL.

Also, people kick out others for being on Quest? Why not just launch VR Chat via SteamLink to your Quest? You can launch all SteamVR games via SteamLink to the Quest headset. I have a Quest 2 and use it for pretty much only streaming from my PC over WiFi from my Linux PC.

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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  “Why not just launch VR Chat via SteamLink to your Quest?”
  
  oh if it where only that simple my sweet summer child :(. my laptop cant… run anything lol
  
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  - chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Well the Steam Frame is mostly going to be a streaming headset from a gaming PC with the possibility of running things local, so you’re going to need a gaming PC to run things like HL: Alyx.
    
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hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I feel the exact same. I have a Quest 3S, and I can’t wait to dump it immediately as soon as I get a Frame.

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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  i heard the quest 3s isnt that good compared to the 3. no headphone jack is a huge loss for me unless the bluetooth latency problem is fixed
  
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  - hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    For what I use it for (mostly Beat Saber, but also 3D modeling), it’s not bad. For what I’d like to use it for (AAA VR games), it’s terrible. But, it’s way better than the Quest 1 I had before it. Still, the Frame is going to absolutely destroy it.
    
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Metostopholes@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I have held off on buying any VR rig, but now I am SO READY.

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xeekei@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I might get one aswell, as long as it’s not too expensive. Haven’t been able to play Half-Life Alyx yet.

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actualaccount@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I am also hyped for the Frame. I’ve got an Index that’s a few years old now. I’m a little sad my FBT won’t natively run, but I’m sure something will come up; not too worried.

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nocturne@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I picked up a psvr and was so excited for it… only I cannot see shit because it does not fit over my glasses. I have intentionally not looked at the frame at all because I do not want to face the same thing happen.

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- Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I think the frame is going to support perscription lenses but don’t quote me on that.
  
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  - nocturne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Where you have to buy special lenses that fit into it? The psvr does too, I cannot afford that shit.
    
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morgan_423@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Not picking it up myself, but definitely hope that you enjoy it.

NGL, the whole FEX-compatibility thing that’ll let you also play non-VR games on it with a normal controller is kind of neat, though I have no idea of how it will perform vs Steam Deck / Steam Machine / other starter PC.

If I were in a situation where I didn’t have normal displays everywhere, I’d consider it as a traditional AR solution.

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- helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  cant waittttt
  
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