This is not only about the gaming. If this low consume high performance sweety is actually affordable, 2026 could actually become the biggest year ever for Linux users. SteamOS is based on Arch Linux, and considering the power of the machine editing should be more than doable, now i’m not sure about the current compatibility/emulation of windows native software on linux, but with a substantial increase in desktop users there could be some serious break through like we already had with Proton for the games.
Steam Machine
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Eezyville@sh.itjust.works to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine
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ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
The relevant bit is not that SteamOS is based on Arch, but that it is running KDE Plasma desktop.
with a substantial increase in desktop users there could be some serious breakthrough like we already had with Proton
Most desktop users are not going to turn developers.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I don’t think that’s what they mean. They mean it’ll show these companies that there’s a market and money to be made by releasing Linux versions of their software.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Litetally two days ago, I said that Proton is the most important project in the history of linux, in terms of getting linux to a mass adoption / user base.
Got mostly downvotes.
Then this happens.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The bearded madman did it! He really nailed it!
MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Companion Cube 😍
The only thing the old Steam Machines were missing a decade ago was good Linux compatibility via Proton, but now we’ve got that! The Steam Deck was a step in the right direction, but I never clicked with it being a handheld first and foremost. I have literally never been more excited for a new “console.”
Datz@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
Goodbye to Steam Deck for this? Both, both is good.
I’m buying this not just for TV play, but hopefully also streaming to SD as a performance upgrade (without handing a ton of money annually to GeForce for laggy inputs), as someone who hasn’t had a desktop to do that in a long while. At that point, Steam Deck is a GabeCube accessory turning it into a Switch.
MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
That sounds like the perfect setup! If the Steam Deck were smaller, that’s exactly what I’d do too.
Rooster326@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I, for one, can’t wait for the limited edition companion cube edition to get released exactly 30 days after I have my steam machine delivered.
Wahots@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Thank you for your sacrifice. The same thing happens to me at my bus stop whenever I open my umbrella on a rainy day. The bus arrives as soon as I open it.
raptir@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Goodbye, Steam Deck.
Nah, just stream from the Steam Machine to your Steam Deck.
Smokeydope@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The GabeCube looks awesome! The GabeGoggles probably aren’t riddled with spyware. The controller fucks so hard it could be an aphrodisiac. Massive win for valve today.
madjo@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Valve just casually changing the entire PC gaming landscape on a Wednesday…
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They used to do it with their games, now it’s with their hardware
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Let’s goooooo I just need to sell one kidney and I can complete the set
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It’s expensive, but not that expensive.
zymagoras777@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The kidney?
Jhex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How much is it?
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Around 700, if we follow previous trends and account for inflation.
DoGeeseSeeGod@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Love to see it! Been very excited about the rumors of the steam machine! Probably won’t get one for a while cuz money, but I’ll probably pick up a steam controller!
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s an LED strip, y’all!
Cool, I hope they keep that idea. 😀
Anyways it all depends on price/performance is good.
Previous attempts at 3rd party Steam Machines were not good in that regard.Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Have you heard of the Steam Deck? Things aren’t the same as they were ten years ago.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Of course I have, and Steam deck was priced very aggressively, but info on who makes this and how it will be priced is 100% absent here.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The LED strip? It’s on the units that have already been tested and demo’d. What looks really interesting is the (presumably optional) front panel display that shows machine vitals. I’ve only seen that mentioned on some articles and videos.
forgetful_fox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I saw that area and secretly hoped for an optical drive slot, not that it would ever happen.
EveningPancakes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Pretty exciting announcement! I was thinking about building a new rig and retiring my current machine with a 3080 to the TV. This might change that.
What I’m more curious about is how are the folks at Microsoft reacting to this news, since it sounds like the next Xbox was essentially going to be a PC. With Valve doing it first and the fact that the Steam store is so huge, I’m imagining this makes them a bit nervous.
jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Never buying Microsoft after the recall bullshit. Also not paying monthly subscription to enable Internet on my device
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
don’t wait for this, get or build a normal pc that you can change parts anytime you want, you will not regret it.
EveningPancakes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If I were 20 years older, I’d be happy to spec out a mini-ITX build. But with a 3 year old running my life, my time is limited and if the price of this is right, it might make more sense for where my current life is at.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Prreciousssss…
We wants it!
AstroLightz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In one of their videos on the store page, they even show the face plate being changed. :O
Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah, it seems that they have different color and graphics face plates, but what looked really cool to me was the actual live display front panel showing machine vitals. Someone in comments mentioned that it’s e-ink. Very interesting.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I’m still surprised they there’s no USB c on the front. I’ve felt this way for 3 hours now since I first saw the picture.
dangrousperson@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
And only HDMI 2.0, not 2.1. At least it has DisplayPort.
recklessengagement@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Agreed, I wonder if this has to do with pricing? I imagine they can save on PCI lanes this way, and can keep the cost of components down.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I won’t be able to afford the Steam Machine at launch, but it will probably be a long time before I can easily get one anyway. Pretty sure I’m going to be jumping ship from traditional consoles to Valve with the way the industry is going. They’ve really impressed me with the Steam Deck.
I wonder if I’ll be able to drag and drop the game and save files for my non-Steam games from the Steam Deck to the Steam Machine and have them just work? That would be nice!
bert@piefed.monster 3 weeks ago
I read that SD cards will be hot swappable, which seems to imply you might get your wish!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Oh wow, that’d be super convenient! I keep all my non-Steam games on a card and my Steam games on the console.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Wait the wait for used ?
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
No 4k120Hz. bummer. To be fair, 4k120hz is not a primary market pull.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s for people to play on their living room TV. Most of those don’t do 120 Hz.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Right, like I said, 4k120hz is a very limited market. However, for those of us with OLEDs, 4k120hz would be very much appreciated. The couch gaming experience on a 77 inch 4k120hz oled is pretty wicked.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I do 120 hz on my TV. With PS5 and Xbox I think market for it is bigger than you would think for 120 hz TVs among gamers who picked up new TVs when they got their new console.
mephiska@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re becoming more common though. The Sony oled I just got does 4k120. I’m bummed it doesn’t have hdmi 2.1 though. VRR would have been nice but maybe the hardware is powerful enough it won’t need it.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It has DisplayPort 1.4 which supports 4K@120hz
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Fair enough. The displayport has limited use though, given how there aren’t many (any?) large 4k120hz televisions. And let me be clear, that’s no dig against displayport (which is the better standard). As far as I know, certain shady license deals keep hdmi artificially ubiquitous on televisions.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I mean if you’re playing older stuff it will output 4k 240. You can probably run Crysis at 4k 240 on that thing.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Eh, that’s not really how it works. It all comes down to the HDMI standard. The HDMI 2.0 used by the steam box has a max officially supported output of 4k60hz. You need HDMI 2.1 to get 4k 120hz - regardless of the capability of your machine.
AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’m a bit concerned about the vram situation. 8Gb is not a lot nowadays, particularly if you start adding stuff like ai framegen and stuff which these types of machines tend to need further down the line.
An extra 8gb wouldn’t have killed the profit margins.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is the weirdest looking humidifier I have ever seen.
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This will no doubt be good for linux pc gaming. On the steamdeck Valve contributed greatly to the opensource proton project.
anonymous111@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is Steam OS available for public use, or only Steam devices?
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If I am correct, CPU in this one is approx 7600x-7900x which i fucking cool! I got HX99G and I love my little machine. It seems that insides of Steam Machine are a little bit better, which is fucking insane and probably will mean that prices are not going to be super high. In any case, seems to be a very stable machine to run games on with a 4k TV.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Looks cool, don’t think it is for me but hope they succeed this time. Same goes the VR headset.
I am interested in the controller though, but my 8bitdo’s are still working fine, so probably not buying in the short term.
sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
🤔wonder if this would double as an hdr-compatible media pc.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ooh that’s completely unnecessary to my use but looks amazing and if I had a big enough place it would be something I’d seriously consider
network_switch@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m excited to see what it can do at idle power draw along with the price. This can end up being a really good miniPC if it’s priced as competitively as the Deck was when that launched
tunetardis@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it’s still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?
I wonder if this means it’s less locked down the Deck? Like is it kind of an iPad vs Mac situation? When I got the Deck and it was my only CPU travelling around at one point, I tried installing some general tools so I could get some actual work done on the road. Things were fairly heavily sandboxed, though nothing was a total deal-breaker I guess?
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Why are people so excited about what looks like custom proprietary hardware designed to have a limited lifespawn and that will end up in a landfill in less than a decade?
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I still don’t get why didn’t they just use an ITX motherboard with a Ryzen 7600 and a Rx 7600 in an ITX case and called it steam machine instead.
Less resources for engineering the thing that could’ve been sued for software development.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
🎶 They’re here! They’re here! They’re fina-lully here! There’s no more time for expectat–
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That looks really cool! I’ll likely pick up a couple of the new controllers, but I’ve currently got a few mini PCs scattered around the house for gaming so I won’t need a steam machine until one of these craps out on me. But I’m very excited for the folks who will be able to get and enjoy it!
lemmyng@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Getting Shuttle PC vibes from the form factor.
melonhusk@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
valve always pulling out these magic boxes. guess i’ll start clearing a spot next to the tv just in case it’s actually revolutionary this time.
magiccupcake@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This thing has pretty interesting hardware:
The chip almost looks like a cut down AMD Ryzen AI Max 385, but with fewer CPU cores and GPU CUs, but the GPU gets its own dedicated VRAM, rather than sharing it, like it does in something like a Framework Desktop.
It also seems like it gets a decent amount of power, so likely at higher clock speeds, performance should be pretty good for not that much money. If this is supposed to be a console then it can’t be much more than a PS5 at $550 or PS5 Pro at $750.
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Dave2D mentioned that Valve said it isn’t aiming to directly complete with consoles, but rather sff PCs. So the price will likely be in the $700-900 range(?)
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I can see this going for around $750 personally
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’re not fitting a 6 core processor and a **60esque card in a ssf case for less than $1k I don’t think, so even $900 is competitive
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Is it an APU, or is it a “desktop” CPU and GPU on one board? CPU specs are close to the 7600x but downlocked. And with dedicated vram I’d assume the GPU is it’s own separate thing.
magiccupcake@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This seems to blur the lines between desktop and mobile APU’s, but I would bet that’s it’s closer to a higher clocked mobile chip, than it is to desktop. The only reason I think this is the case is due to the similarity spec wise with the Max 385, and that it’s semi-custom.
If it was just a 7600x CPU + 7600 GPU I think they would have just said so. It could be separate CPU+GPU, but I think it might be possible that it is built more like a SOC, where the GPU is just given its own dedicated VRAM.
Looking at the hardware of say a PS5, it has 16 GB of GDRR6, the same as the Steam Machine’s VRAM.
If everything is soldered anyway, there is no reason to have separate chips for CPU+GPU, especially if that hardware already exists like the AMD Ryzen AI Max line.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
To keep the package small, they might still have laptop type discreet GPU, just integrated on the same board.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
2 separate chips, both soldered to the board
stsquad@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I would have thought unified memory would pay off, otherwise you spend your time shuffling stuff between system memory and vram. Isn’t the deck unified memory?
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was going to build a gaming pc for the first time in years on Black Friday
This news put it on hold immediately. I’ll just get the Steam Machine instead, it’s exactly what I’ve wished for: a more powerful Steam Deck without a screen or controller built in.
AND it’ll run 4k games so I don’t need to downscale to my monitor.
I’m perfectly fine with it being FSR and only 60fps, as 99% of the stuff I play are single player games anyway.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
With 8GB of VRAM, 4K gaming will suffer some.
Ugurcan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m wondering how much this stationary device has horsepower compared to a PS5 or Series X.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I’m not the best at gauging this but it seems it’s meant to be carried around and plugged into a 4K TV and operate okay at 60fps for most games that multiple people would play while in the same room.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
GamersNexus estimates a 7600.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Moore’s Law is Dead is estimating a $425 cost to produce, sale price between $450 to $600, depending on how hard they want to fuck Microsoft out of gaming.
qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Retro Game Corps was estimating $500-$600 and they are defintely out to lunch with that
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Depends on tariffs.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I suspect the CPU is probably some Ryzen 7640u and the GPU is a 7600m equivalent.
This doesn’t seem to be an APU
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
You call pretty interesting hardware what looks like non-replaceable parts?