Cethin
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- Comment on 8BitDo announces it's controllers now have Steam/SteamOS compatibility 4 days ago:
No it isn’t, they could use a mouse if they wanted to, and they aren’t. Sure it helps that the Steam Deck is portable, but if you think they are all sitting there wishing they could have a mouse and keyboard you are being silly. We aren’t talking about what makes the most convenient way to game on the go, if using a mouse and keyboard provided a critical increase in accuracy and speed using a weapon system you better believe they would stick a fucking logitech wireless mouse in the pockets of their army fatigues?
I’m not going to spend a lot of time on this, but not, you wouldn’t. It wouldn’t be practical. Watch this and you’ll understand that it really isn’t an option. You don’t have a nice desk to sit at while you’re doing this stuff. You’re in a war zone. It’s a totally different situation, and not comparable, to you sitting in your comfy home. Again, this is not stating which is better (probably controller anyway), just that it doesn’t matter to the conversation. For example, soldiers eating MREs doesn’t prove they’re the best meal. No, they’re practical, portable, and stable, which you need because you’re in a fucking war zone.
If you want to look at a better situation, look at pro players of games. They’re on KB&M.
you are deceiving yourself because you can’t admit that high level quake play just shits on any kind of counterstrike style game
I don’t know what this even means. Requires more skill? Is that what you mean? The amount of skill required is purely dictated by level of play. Top level players will likely be at the extent of human ability, no matter the game (assuming it has a large enough player base). Top level play is defined as the limit of skills, making them effectively all equal. Quake has a high skill floor, but the ceiling is essentially as high as CS. If you mean shits on as in it’s “better” then I don’t care, and apparently neither does anyone else because CS is watched and played far more.
NOTE Counter Strike is just as hard as a competitive game as Xonotic, it is probably way harder given the immensity of it’s playerbase that has also mastered these mechanics.
We agree.
I don’t know what I’m spending my time here on. I agree controller has some advantages. So does KB&M. Use them for what they’re best at.
Computer people/gamers are no different than any other demographic of humans in that they will irrationally refuse to try certain things for no good reason
I agree. Again, look at CS pros. They stuck to using 4:3 (sometimes black bars, sometimes stretched) for a long time, even on 16:9 monitors. However, they adapt over time. Literally none have gotten to a high level with a controller, even though plenty have played with them, even with gyro.
Edit I mean I didn’t even bring up rocket league lol…
Edit 2 My second edit got lost, but suffice to say gestures at FPV drones and RC hobby not giving a shit about wanting mouse and keyboard level precision control in the field because THEY ALREADY HAVE IT with their tools.
I feel like you didn’t read my comment and just started ranting. I said controllers are better for some things. Driving and flying in particular. These both have custom hardware better suited for them usually though. We haven’t replaced steering wheels in cars because they’re better for driving. We haven’t replaced sticks in (most) planes because they’re better for flying. Controllers are best at being cheap, versitile, and convenient. They do suit drone flight well though, and may be ideal for that. Even without the Deck, drones were controlled by a dual stick system usually, so a controller naturally fits.
- Comment on 8BitDo announces it's controllers now have Steam/SteamOS compatibility 4 days ago:
Than you are like most mouse and keyboard players where you confidently assume mouse and keyboard is the best control method end of story.
No, it’s great for driving and flying. It’s also the best option for most souls-likes and third person melee games.
That is a Ukrainian soldier using a steam deck to control actual weapon systems real humans…
OK, this is a stupid point. This is a much different scenario than someone sitting at home. The Deck is portable, light, and has control and display built in. It’s perfect for this, where a desktop wouldn’t really work. Even if the control scheme isn’t ideal (which it’s great for controlling a drone, but that’s beside the point), setting up a keyboard and mouse with a monitor and power would be horrible for them.
Honestly if I sound snarky it is because I have grown to love how unshakably mouse and keyboard players believe they are using the only method to play competitively.
For aiming, it’s almost always better. Controller is better for movement usually. Controller inputs are between 0 and 1. Mouse is unrestrained, so it’s more precise and faster at the same time.
Especially in a battlefield type FPS game with aircraft, mouse and keyboard players will hilariously refuse to fly with anything other than mouse and keyboard…
Again, controller is great for driving and flying. You can swap inputs freely though. Use both if you want. Driving and flying on KB&M is not that bad though, and aiming with a controller is significantly worse, so if you’re choosing one KB&M is the right choice.
me flying circles around people
*Recording of me playing the best arena shooter, Xonotic, with joysticks and gyro. Sure there are plenty of quake players that could annihilate me…
I like that these follow each other. Of course you can get clips that look good, and also you know there are clips where you look bad. What does that prove?
Note that Xonotic is one of the fastest competitive games period, which means slower competitive games are comparatively in terms of dynamic aim and movement skill FAR easier to master the mechanics of than Xonotic, so Xonotic is the perfect proving ground to prove this.*
This is irrelevant to the conversation, but there are different types of mechanical skill. The skill you use in Quake is not the same as the skill you use in Counter Strike, for example. Both of them require incredible skill at high level play. Largely it’s down to accuracy VS precision. Quake style you need to be more accurate (shoot in the right area) but less precise. CS you’ll be aiming in the right spot already, so you need less precision and more accuracy. You’ve got a fraction of a second to get a headshot, and you have to hit it. Gyro aim is likely only going to make that harder.
There’s a reason top level players of all competitive shooters (and gaming in general usually) on PC use KB&M even though controllers are usable on PC. If there was an argument here you’d see at least a few using controllers.
- Comment on 8BitDo announces it's controllers now have Steam/SteamOS compatibility 4 days ago:
Someone mentioned fwupd in another comment. I haven’t tried it, but hopefully it works.
- Comment on 8BitDo announces it's controllers now have Steam/SteamOS compatibility 4 days ago:
I don’t know of any that controller would be better than keyboard and mouse though, so if you’re that engaged with comp, shouldn’t you just sit at your computer?
- Comment on 8BitDo announces it's controllers now have Steam/SteamOS compatibility 4 days ago:
For the Souls games, binding sprint and use item to them is a game changer (though I haven’t played them with my 8bitdo, but I did with my Steam Controller). Normally you have to claw grip to run, move, and look, but with back buttons you can avoid that.
- Comment on Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape' 4 days ago:
I agree, though it’s to a much lesser extent. Regular people can find a small group that support whatever views that have without any push back. Public figures make money (or get elected, or whatever else) off of public perseption, though this sometimes creates a situation where being bad is positive for them too.
- Comment on Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape' 4 days ago:
stop trying to make cancel culture against white men a real thing.
Where did I say that? I just said revenge doesn’t gain us anything if it prevents people from becoming less asshole, or spreading that behavior.
let’s stop acting like Nazis need to be personally hugged and kissed on the forehead until they stop being violent
Let’s stop acting like former Nazis are just as bad as existing ones. Unless you’re going to kill him, shut the fuck up. He exists and is going to use his platform, whether you like it or not. I’d rather it not be used to promote Nazism.
- Comment on Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape' 5 days ago:
That’s not even close to remotely what they said. They said it’s easy to become one if you’re trying to be edgy. They never said it was OK. They said you can change and get out of it. If you were just doing it to be edgy, and not because you believed white people are superior, then it’s easier to change.
Argue in good faith if you’re going to argue. Don’t change people’s words to fight a strawman. It only makes you look stupid.
- Comment on Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape' 5 days ago:
I watched a documentary recently about a former skin head who was getting his tattoos removed because he hated them because he didn’t believe that stuff anymore. I don’t remember his age, but he had to be in his 30s.
You don’t “grow out of it” but you can learn that you were wrong. I’m not saying that anyone should support pewdeepie, but it should be encouraged when people change their views like that. Even if he’s being dishonest, it should be encouraged that he’s telling others it’s wrong, and also that it’s more beneficial to not do that.
The goal should not be revenge, it should be less hate. Revenge only puts us further away from what we supposedly want.
- Comment on Youtuber PewDiePie is going all in on deGoogling and the Steam Deck is one of the surprising tools that's helping him to 'escape' 5 days ago:
Here’s the problem with public figures in particular: they have an extrinsic motivation to make others believe they’ve changed. You can’t actually know if they’re doing it for the money or because they actually believe it.
The same issue goes for doing good too. Do people donate to charity because they want to or because they want people to see them? Is it still good if it’s the latter? Is there a difference functionally?
- Comment on Activision Quietly Force Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts and Players Absolutely Hate It: 'At This Point It Really Feels Like Opening Up a Mobile Game' 5 weeks ago:
I’ve been really enjoying The Finals for a while now. It’s fantastic and actually innovative.
ARC Raiders is coming out very soon if you want a really good extraction shooter. There’s also Gray Zone, Escape from Tarkov, Hunt: Showdown, and many others in this genre, all with different twists.
ArmA Reforger I just started playing recently (I own all the other ArmA games but I was waiting on this, since it’s still a work in progress, as are all modern games now though it seems). It’s a platform, like all ArmA games, where you can play anything from the default Conflict game mode, where two teams fight over a map in a war that can last multiple days sometimes, or a new version of a DayZ style, or ArmA Life (basically GTA Roleplay, but it’s existed in ArmA much longer), or so much else.
There’s a ton of games out there. You’ve listed several genres, but all of them with massive budgets. The best games, in my opinion, aren’t these. It’s the smaller/indie games that are willing to try something new, but you have to look for them. There’s been a bunch of civ-likes recently, there’s tons of BRs and Extraction shooter style games (Zero Sievert is a cool solo extraction shooter, for example).
Don’t just stick to the shiny games with big marketing budgets. Go find some gems in the rough and you’ll be greatly rewarded.
- Comment on Activision Quietly Force Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts and Players Absolutely Hate It: 'At This Point It Really Feels Like Opening Up a Mobile Game' 5 weeks ago:
I think it’s coming to Steam with 1.0 soon.
- Comment on Activision Quietly Force Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts and Players Absolutely Hate It: 'At This Point It Really Feels Like Opening Up a Mobile Game' 5 weeks ago:
They did years ago when PUBG was new. It hasn’t been updated for CS2 I’m pretty sure, so you can’t easily play it anymore.
- Comment on With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows 1 month ago:
So that’s at least two situations were the performance improvements are present without Proton, hence you cannot logically claim they’re due to Proton, even indirectly.
Except these tests were almost certainly being run on SteamOS using WINE with Proton. We can’t know what the numbers would be with any other setup without doing it. Would a Protonless DXVK for WINE run just as well? We can’t know from these figure.
Also, Proton does not require running through WINE. I play Epic, GoG, and otherwise sources games with Proton not through Steam all the time. It’s also more than just DXVK. That’s a big part of it though.
No one is arguing that DXVK isn’t important or anything like that. They’re just saying Proton is a piece of this, which includes DXVK. I don’t know why you’re arguing.
- Comment on With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows 1 month ago:
It’s just Vulkan outperforming DirectX by translating DirectX to Vulcan. If you’re comparing the default experience with Windows and Linux, how can you say Proton isn’t technically improving performance? What would you call that if a performance increase is caused by running through Proton?
- Comment on Here's the source code for the unofficial Signal app used by Trump officials 2 months ago:
You’ve got to be more clear about serving in the IDF. Luckily your quote gives more detail, but literally every Israeli citizen has to serve in the IDF, so former service in the IDF doesn’t mean much more than just saying they’re Israeli.
- Comment on Coin-sized nuclear 3V battery with 50-year lifespan enters mass production 2 months ago:
Eh, it’s likely not an issue. There’s radioactive material in water runoff and all kinds of places. A small amount is not noticeable. Even in the worst case, these aren’t an issue. If they can be near your body 24/7 without causing problems, them getting spread out into even smaller pieces can only be less significant than that.
People are too scared by radiation. It usually isn’t an issue and you’re constantly interacting with it. It’s only in very rare circumstances where you need to worry.
- Comment on Sid Meier's Civilization VII is Steam Deck Verified with the Linux version ahead of release on February 11 5 months ago:
$90? Fuck. Isn’t the Canadian dollar fairly close the the US dollar?
- Comment on Decksight, an OLED screen replacement for LCD decks, is now in crowdfunding 6 months ago:
That’s stupid. It’s not a console where settings are locked down. Sure, you probably can’t run a new AAA high fidelity game at 1080p, nor could you run it at native at max settings. There are tons of games out there, new and old, that it can easily run at 1080p, especially if you tweek settings. You can always choose to render at a lower resolution than native too if you want.
- Comment on Microsoft Recall screenshots credit cards and Social Security numbers, even with the "sensitive information" filter enabled 6 months ago:
What went wrong? I’ve had essentially no issues lately. I know there’s a handful of games with anti-cheats or DRMs that break (mostly out of China), but it’s pretty minor. Modding is also a bit of a pain and has to be done manually for now, but Nexus is working on a new mod manager that should work for all platforms eventually.
- Comment on Microsoft Recall screenshots credit cards and Social Security numbers, even with the "sensitive information" filter enabled 6 months ago:
You don’t need SteamOS. It’s likely not going to solve any problems for you that aren’t solved elsewhere. It’ll be good for console-like devices, but just use a normal desktop distro for a desktop computer.
I like Garuda Dragonized for gaming. It comes set up with a lot of gaming stuff already, and makes it easy to install a bunch of other gaming related packages you may want.
Theres no need to wait for Valve. The problem is solved already.
- Comment on Valve now sell refurbished Steam Deck OLED models 6 months ago:
Linux is free, and pretty much all hardware is compatible. AMD GPUs have a small advantage with their open source drivers, but Nvidia cards still function 99.9% of the time as far as I’m aware. You don’t need to worry about it. Just install Linux and you’re likely good to go.
- Comment on Huge win for Internet freedom: Google must sell its Chrome browser 7 months ago:
Law enforcement is done on a case by case basis. The laws already exist. Congress doesn’t matter for this right now. The courts (and DOJ) have to go through each case individually and see how the law applies. It can’t all be done at once, as a matter of fact.
Since we can’t do it all at once, the comment above’s opinion seems to be we should do nothing because the oil industry needs enforcement first. Someone else will point to another thing.
It’s good it’s happening at all. The past few years I’ve seen more anti-monopoly rulings than the rest of my life combined. It’s been great. It’s all about to end though.
- Comment on Huge win for Internet freedom: Google must sell its Chrome browser 7 months ago:
There’s a lot of reasons to own it, one potential profit source being selling what the default search engine is. Just because Google doesn’t own it doesn’t mean they won’t pay to be the default search. They pay a lot for this on Firefox. (Yes, this is being looked into to and may stop, but they can still sell being an option for the default search engine, or other things.)
- Comment on Huge win for Internet freedom: Google must sell its Chrome browser 7 months ago:
Why do we always have comments defending these mega-corps. There’s always the “what about…” people saying that something else needing regulating means this mega-corp shouldn’t be regulated. How about any of it being regulated is good. We can hopefully get around to the other things eventually, but we can’t do it all at the same time. (That, and Trump’s adm. probably is going to put a stop to any of it, so just be happy that we’ve seen anything happen.)
- Comment on Terrified friends burn to death trapped in Tesla as doors won't open after crash 7 months ago:
Mid-terms are in 2 years!
NHTSA is part of the executive, so he would still have control over it, but we can at least hopefully place restrictions on his power (or impeach) in 2, assuming the election still happens and the results are accepted.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 8 months ago:
Something I wanted to do when I had my Vive working, and I’m unsure if this is actually possible, is integrate the android watch OS into it. It’d be so nice to always have quick access to your device that is integrated into the VR space. I’m not sure why someone hasn’t done this yet (assuming they haven’t).
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 8 months ago:
Yeah, I had a Vive. The lighthouses have failed now so it’s not currently usable, and I didn’t use it frequently and am now on Linux and haven’t looked into if VR will work for me now, so I haven’t gotten a replacement. I’ve thought about it though. It sucks that even I, who has used VR and enjoyed it, doesn’t currently feel the need to have a working headset.
Im going to look into a used headset and support on my device though. I might get back into it.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 8 months ago:
My comment they were replying to didn’t touch this, so they weren’t responding to that. However, I disagree we need some “killer app” to make adoption more likely. It’d be great, but I don’t see it happening. There’s nothing really that is done in VR that can’t also be on traditional displays. The advantage is immersion. It just has to be at a price that people find worth it.
People, especially companies, don’t like talking about this because it’s “obscene” or something, but, like so many things, I think porn is the way to sell VR. It gives an experience that, while still available in traditional formats, is quite different. It’s not a “killer app” but does provide distinct advantages not seen anywhere else.
- Comment on When the Steam Deck was still just an idea, Valve says some staff were like, "I just want that for me" and "the point wasn't even to make a product out of it" 8 months ago:
3D printing is such a boon for this. You can make things for yourself put it online for free, and other people can also make it. There’s no need for a profit incentive. I hope in the future everyone owns a 3D printer.