Comment on RimWorld switches engine from Unity to the devs' own, faster Waylith Engine, all apparently without breaking mods somehow

• deadcream@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are rumors it’s based on the engine that Kitten Space Agency’s (spiritual successor to Kerbal Space Program) devs develop.

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  • skibidi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dean confirmed on the KSA discord that they licensed BRUTAL (the framework that KSA’s engine is built upon) to Ludeon for Waylith.

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  • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Those are two games with extremely different needs…

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    • deadcream@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      From what I understand, BRUTAL (the thing that KSA devs made) is not a typical game engine. It’s very low level and more of a set of tools and libraries to make a game and its engine with. It doesn’t restrict game devs in any way and aims to give them maximum freedom (e.g. it doesn’t even have a concept of a “scene” that all engines like Unity or Unreal have). Obviously this also makes it very complicated to use compared to Unity.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, imo the term “game engine” itself has kinda evolved over the years from “framework that contains common game/renderer code” to “platform to handle the entire process of implementing a game”.

        It’s just code in the end, so even the “full platform” option can be used as if it’s just a framework, which it sounds like RimWorld was doing if it could switch engines without breaking mod support (another comment guessed LLMs were involved but IMO this goes way beyond what an LLM would handle well, as it would involve pretty much reimplementing unity’s framework). Though I don’t have any direct experience with Rimworld mods and how exactly they interact with the game; if they used a data-driven approach, then it could be possible to redo just that interface and keep mods working (though it would also depend on what exactly was running the mod code itself, as that part would also need to remain functional).

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    • it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re both projects moving away from Unity and to something more tailorable to their needs at a lower level, so it’s not all that strange, really.

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  • Kyrias@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t do that to me. Don’t give me hope.

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• Creat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not a single of their dlc has spoken to me or my play style. So a new game sounds great to me.

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  • Kyrias@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve dodged a couple (Royalty and Anomaly) but all appreciate they put the effort in.

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Playing without Ideology is crazy, you’re missing out on so much RP

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    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s so funny to be that Rimworld is basically copied straight from Dwarf Fortress all the way up to Ideology. Then they start coming up with their own content and everyone hates it.

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      • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have liked all the DLCs. Probably royalty the least. Biotech and ideology tied for top and they go together really well. The most recent 2 are also pretty fun.

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    • Creat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have it. I didn’t finish a single playthrough since.

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      • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I personally don’t finish Rimworld playthroughs, I go until Randy decides I’m done with the colony.

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      • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you finish, you didn’t up the difficulty enough

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  • goatbeard@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ideology is my favorite, I couldn’t imagine playing without it

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