Comment on DF Direct Weekly #240: Steam Machine - Pricing, Specs, VRAM, ARM Ambitions + More

bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  just speculation.

  only things valve employees said about prices is:

  • they are targetting a lower price for the frame than the index (index was 1000$ afaik)
  • the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)
  • prices will be announced closer to launch.

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  • etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)

    “Expect a high enough price such that we couldn’t group it in with console prices.”

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    • any1th3r3@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Which is a bummer imo, since I don’t think people already considering a lower midrange PC today are the target demographic, but I would love to be proven wrong.

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    • Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s disappointing.

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      • etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Consoles sell at a loss with the idea that they recoup it with game purchases.

        Steam gets a 30% cut of game purchases and could do it also. Unfortunately/fortunately it’s also a functioning Linux desktop - so they can’t really sell it at a loss - because some companies might just purchase it for compute.

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  • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    2nd line means it won’t be sold at a loss

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m surprised anybody thought it could be.

      Guys, it is literally just a small form factor PC (with a couple of console QoL additions like waking from controller support and HDMI CEC). It’s an open platform.

      If Valve sold it at a loss, offices and governments would buy them up and reimage them with Windows.

      Sony and MS can only get away with making a loss because the closed platform guarantees they make money back on game sales.

      Part of the reason the PS3 got more locked down after release is that governments, researchers, and companies openly talked about buying them and running custom software on it, because the hardware was so subsidised.

      That said, this is a low end device for 2026, make no mistakes of that. If Valve want to, they can sell this for $500. Perhaps even lower if they’re fine with razor thin margins.

      Remember that this thing’s price needs to be justifiable not only now, but also in 2 years or so when vastly more powerful consoles come out.

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  • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why does everyone keep saying Index was $1000. That’s just blatantly wrong. It’s like $500. It was only the set that includes 2 controllers and 2 base stations that costs $1000. But you can order each part separately.
    The Frame won’t have base stations, and it’s unlikely that the Frame controllers will cost $300, since they don’t seem as advanced as the Index controllers (at least in regards to the hand presence tech).
    And since there are dozens of us that already have those I’d expect that you can buy the Frame w/o controllers too.

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    • Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      because thats seemingly the upper bound l.

      i’d expect something a bit more expensive than the quest 3, which currently costs 550€ with controllers, because i don’t think valve will sell at cost, but with a slim margin.

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      • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not the upper bound, because the set only includes 2 base stations. That’s good enough for most use cases but if you need the additional coverage you’ll be buying 2 more for $150 a pop

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  • warmaster@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)

    Steam Machine 2: DOA 2

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• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s the 240th episode of DF Direct Weekly. I don’t think they have to explain the format at this point any longer.

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  • cloudless@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does it not come to you that someone might have never even heard of DF?

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    • Hominine@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      One person in the thumbnail seems vaguely familiar, and now they are associated with an immediately untrustworthy statement, bravo for that I suppose.

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    • Yttra@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, they’d probably find out by watching the video. Or they’d move on and enjoy the rest of their day/night, it’s really all up to them.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does it not come to you that someone might have never even heard of DF?

      These few people can just watch a few minutes of the video and get the gist of it.

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      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or we can all just assume that since Steam hasn’t released the price these guys are just misleading people for views and put them on our permanently do not watch list. Couple that with someone being smarmy about the content rather than talking to people and it seems like something I wouldn’t personally enjoy.

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    • hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I definitely have no idea who these guys are, and thought that valve has dropped new info

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Misleading title? On the internet!?

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