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Pavlov's conditioning

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, no joke, a dog whining/ begging is conditioning you.

    I beg. You give me food. I look cute.

    I beg. You don’t give me food. I cry.

    Next time I beg, will you give me the food?

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    • ikapoz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I seem to remember reading that domesticated dogs evolved more expressive eyebrows that proved to be a survival advantage in this process.

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      • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Found the article: www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1820653116

        That is super neat, you’re right! It was bread into them due to human preference.

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve seen a few things that have shown many animals have developed a sense of “cuteness” specifically to deal with us.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Too bad it’s not Pavlovian conditioning afaik

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    • harmsy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Replace every instance of dog with cat and you’ve got the reason I give out treats at night before I start cleaning dishes.

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  • SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The correct answer is

    Fuck Pavlov

    Motherfucker is like the Hitler of dogs. It’s a shame his name is remembered for the conditioning and not the mutilation. Dude was a monster.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wait really? Ive never been told about this

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      • Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various “gastric juices”. He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion… not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.

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    • harmsy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I guess Piccolo was right to curse out Pavlov.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But the mutilation was part of the research I thought

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Such an existential question in so few words.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or… it’s just an obvious “yes”…

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There is a joke about that:

    Pavlov is sitting in a bar enjoying his beer. The phone rings. Pavlov jumps up: “Damn! I forgot to feed the dogs!”

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  • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My dog trained me to get him water by lifting the toilet bowl lid. He doesn’t want to drink out of it, but he knows I’ll get up to stop him and check his water on the way. Now he’ll lift the lid then go stand by the water dish.

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Alternatively: your dog has learned how to effectively communicate with you to ask for water.

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  • Kellamity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pavlov’s dog is not notable for showing that dogs could be conditioned (bell = food time)

    What it did was show that a conditional response (bell = food time) could cause a reflexive response (saliva)

    Classical conditioning is not the same as associative learning.

    Pavlov’s dog is not about associating Thing A with Thing B - that didn’t need a russian scientist to prove.

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    • Fwoggey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I didn’t know that! Also apparently the Barenaked Ladies had it right when they wrote Brian Wilson:

      It’s a matter of instinct It’s a matter of conditioning and a matter of fact You can call me Pavlov’s Dog Ring a bell and I’ll salivate

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Please Please Please Get a Life Foundation

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What’s haunting about this question?

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    • braxy29@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i suppose it’s that his intent was to train (essentially to control) something apart from himself, but he likely trained himself in the process (created something within himself that he did not control, at least for as long as the response was conditioned).

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Assuming he was conditioned by the sound of the bell. Which might not be the case.

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    • Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Your brain being altered without your consent/awareness?

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  • macisr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck, damn. 🤔

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  • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pavlov Pavloved Pavlov

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  • FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Deep

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  • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image Transcription: Twitter Post


    Jeremy Parish, probably, @gamespite

    Out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, “Do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time he heard a bell ring?” and now I’m going to be haunted by this question

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  • JPJones@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The mice will see you now.

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