I think what handheld gamers really want is AI incorporation.
Handheld consoles are the industry's next battleground | Opinion
Submitted 4 days ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/handheld-consoles-are-the-industrys-next-battleground-opinion
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Davidjjdj@lemmy.world 4 days ago
riskable@programming.dev 4 days ago
Well, good/useful AI integration. An AI that makes games infinitely replayable by changing the story, levels, and characters so they’re 100% unique every time? That could be awesome. Oh man I bet that sort of thing would be amazing if done right in a roguelike game!
AI that tries to figure out how to sell you more loot boxes? No thanks!
soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
if done right in a roguelike game
Here, have a Dwarf Fortress: bay12games.com/dwarves/ (For the roguelike adventure mode, you currently need to get an older version, 0.47.5 or buy the game on Steam, as adventure mode in version 50.xx is still in beta.)
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Honestly, I’m just excited for the possibility of NPCs that can have lifelike conversations. Should add a lot to RPGs.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
Ever since I was a kid after seeing BMO in adventure time I’ve been obsessed with this idea.
A console with an AI that will make new games to play when it’s plugged in and not in use. Then you can favorite the ones that are fun and it will scrap the rest and make more games. One day I hope
termus@beehaw.org 3 days ago
MS and Sony can push their handhelds, but I’m not looking for a locked down device to play games on. The reason the Steam Deck was such a sell for me was that it is a full PC. That I can do what I want with. I don’t want “mobile” or console gaming, because they have turned them into predatory micro-transaction mess.
2ugly2live@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Didn’t, like, steam deck and the switch already do THAT? Maybe they’ll force Sony to make a PSP2. I still love that little guy 😭
Comment105@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Yeah, the consoles corpos might fight over who can make a more widely adopted locked down and limited handheld than Nintendo with none of the multiplayer features.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
The success of the Steam Deck alongside the Nintendo Switch I think is the primary reason MS is attempting to enter the market, and So y is giving it another try.
Out of curiosity, is there any reason why you don’t consider the Vita a PSP2?
2ugly2live@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Honestly, just forgot. 😅 PSP3 then lmao
BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 4 days ago
Yeah, handheld war, Anbernic vs Miyoo, amirite?
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
I have no experience with Miyoo, but people love their stuff. Personally, I really like everything I’ve gotten from Anbernic. I just bought a couple of their new wireless controllers and they’re great.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 4 days ago
People are 100% ignoring that going mobile is a red herring for the fact graphical fidelity is becoming increasingly expensive and publishers need an excuse to divest from lifelike game worlds and graphics. It’s the perfect excuse to go back to stylized games like SOTC or HiFiRush without antagonising the CoD and FiFA type crowds that send death threats when the recoil changes left 0,01mm in the latest update, or when there’s women as protagonists.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The game Bodycam was developed by 2 people, a 17 and 20 year old, and has the most realistic graphics I’ve ever seen.
xor@infosec.pub 4 days ago
well that’s just silly
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
Honestly good. Graphics now have honestly gotten so bad with efficiency. We have hardware 10x more powerful and games that run 20x worse and have artifacting from forced TAA. Not every game but a lot are looking less clear, more blurry, with way better textures and resolution but just simply run like absolute shit. And for what? best example I can think of off the top of my head is csgo to CS2. Looks a little better yeah, but going from being able to be played on a core 2 duo integrated graphics to barely running for me when I had 16GB of ram and an rx 5500 that’s crazy. It doesn’t look that much better to run that much worse
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 4 days ago
This article is literally the opposite of ignoring that, is it not?
Viri4thus@feddit.org 4 days ago
It’s speculating on the reasons, which especially for Sony, are a red herring.
averyminya@beehaw.org 2 days ago
Can anyone tell me where handhelds are supposed to go from here? Truly. I can’t really see what can be improved from the perspective of the Steam Deck - all the things that come from a next gen device seem a bit antithetical to how the portable device functions. Better specs to make use of the better screen (HZ+resolution) mean a bigger battery and more weight, so…
The OG Deck is about as heavy as any portable should ever be, the OLED is noticeably lighter. So are the console wars shifting to handhelds in the next gen hardware packaging competition? The future of the gaming industry is just making more powerful Nintendo Switches?
Note: I’m not against more handhelds being out there. I just genuinely don’t see where they can really improve from here in any meaningful way after the next screen improvement
Flaim@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
as a steam deck user, who would like to use it during shortish transits (20 minutes per ride) i’d like it to be a good bit smaller. the size of the ayn odin 2 mini would be ideal, with slightly recessed sticks, so you could easily pull it out of the backpack and put it back in quickly. yes, that’s conflicting with others who would like to have a bigger screen, using it more like a travel console being tied to wall power, but that’s personal preference.
outside of the usual spec bumps, that’s all i could think of in terms of upgrades for the deck.averyminya@beehaw.org 17 hours ago
I can definitely see the benefit in smaller sized portables, but I do wonder at what point we reach diminishing returns. I can’t help but think about the 3DS and PSP and how silly it would be to be trying to play Battlefield and CoD in the Steam Deck style. At the same time, I played Monster Hunter all the time on those, and MH:W on my phone with a controller and steam remote play.
So then I think about the types of games, like Disgaea and other J/RPG’s and how a smaller Steam Deck would fit that well. Idk where I’m going with this, it’s just interesting to think about how gaming is fractured based on the genre and form factor. I use my Steam Deck a lot to play games, but I’m playing games that I stopped playing on PC, because indie 2D side scrollers feel weird there.
Are we just going to get to the point where gamers have their 3DS/PSP sized portable, the Steam Deck sized portable, and the large tablet sized portable, each for specific games? Lol
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
This is mainly just looking at it being different consoles in the space. The Switch 2/PS handheld/Xbox handheld won’t have to compete on who has the best hardware, for Nintendo games you get the switch, PS games the PSP, and game pass you get the Xbox.
As for future PC handhelds, there will be linear improvements (better performance, better battery life, etc), different UI options (SteamOS versus windows with some program slapped on top), and different use cases (smaller more portable devices, etc).
Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 days ago
[deleted]Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
What? I don’t follow you at all.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 days ago
Me neither, I guess I left the phone unlocked in the pocket.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
This isn’t new.
The list of handhelds goes back 50 years.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And they’ve already lost lmao
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 days ago
Right? The only ones who can muscle in on the deck are Microsoft and Sony, and that’s only because they have their fan base and users who purchased their games digitally from their stores. Even then, they’re way behind on the Deck.
PC gamers Deck won hands down. I’m happy to see competition, but the Deck won. Everything else right now are the android Honeycomb tablets following the iPad. I’m sure they work fine, but there’s already a winner.