Submitted 9 months ago by Blaze@lemm.ee to moviesandtv@lemm.ee
I can’t speak specifically to THIS community, but I do mod a few other large communities (Politics and World News).
Generally it’s not allowed to have meta posts about the way things are run or the moderators.
Looking at the sidebar, I don’t see that as an explicit rule here, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s why the other post was removed.
Best advice? Be the change you want to be. :) Some new movie or TV show is starting? Get that review post up yourself.
Generally it’s not allowed to have meta posts about the way things are run or the moderators.
That seems to me like an incredibly bad policy decision, in general. If there are legitimate meta/moderation issues, it’s important to be able to address them in a proactive manner. Banning that sort of discussion outright is going to lead to problems in the long run, as you’ll be making a pressure cooker with no outlet.
If there’s maybe a concern that meta content might displace other content, you could always designate a specific day for meta discussions.
Well, there are two fields of thought on moderation…
One is that it should be invisible. It happens, but nobody knows how or why. Like pruning a garden… You never see it happening, you just know the end result is beautiful.
I’m in 100% the polar opposite camp in that I believe in transparency. If some post or comment is bad enough to remove, everyone is going to know why. If something is reported for bullshit reasons, I’ll keep it, and tell everyone why they can stop reporting it.
This paints a target on my back and I’ve picked up stalkers because of that who then go on to post meta posts attacking me or the other mods, which then causes them to get permanently banned because other mods and site admins a) don’t have time for that kind of crap and b) have an entire back channel for communication where we share notes on users who are abusing the system, making sure they get banned.
I’m moderating a handful of communities, and I’ve done so on Reddit for a long while as well.
It’s generally not a good practice to stop people from discussing how things are run. If the criticism is unfounded, the mods or users can reply with why. If the criticism is valid, then it’s a good way to improve the community. What people don’t like is when mods use their power to remove criticism
Some cases where it might be ok to remove the posts might be
In this case, I don’t think removing the post helped much. It was a low stakes discussion and the movie/TV communities on here are already very small.
It might be nice now if the mod leaves a comment about why the other post was removed, and what they’d suggest instead
Hello,
Good to see you here, thank you for your insight.
Generally it's not allowed to have meta posts about the way things are run or the moderators.
This is a horrible policy.
Well, there are two fields of thought on moderation…
One is that it should be invisible. It happens, but nobody knows how or why. Like pruning a garden… You never see it happening, you just know the end result is beautiful.
I’m in 100% the polar opposite camp in that I believe in transparency. If some post or comment is bad enough to remove, everyone is going to know why. If something is reported for bullshit reasons, I’ll keep it, and tell everyone why they can stop reporting it.
This paints a target on my back and I’ve picked up stalkers because of that who then go on to post meta posts attacking me or the other mods, which then causes them to get permanently banned because other mods and site admins a) don’t have time for that kind of crap and b) have an entire back channel for communication where we share notes on users who are abusing the system, making sure they get banned.
Yea, while I’m not sure I agree with that as a policy, I can see it making sense.
But this isn’t Reddit. We’re much smaller, and frankly, should be thankful that people are here and posting. So long as a post isn’t way off topic, or obviously toxic or of a kind that is known to bother the community members, honestly, at this stage of things, mods have no business removing posts.
I can see exceptions to this for communities that have rather specific purposes, but for anything that’s a discussion community intended to be driven by its users, come on, let the users discuss!!
Hello,
I recognize you from !comicbooks@lemmy.world, good to see you here!
I see where you come from, but in this case, it seems a bit strange as the whole idea of the thread is to discuss who the community wants to address that issue. Some people might think the first option is the best, some other people might prefer the second one. There is only so many of us here, so I guess it’s better to find a consensus together instead of having half of the people going in opposite directions. The discussions were actually quite interesting.
Also, historically, this community was created when !moviesandtv@lemmy.film when down with its instance. We were a few members wanting to create this one, so it came from a group effort rather than one person initiative.
Aaaaaaaa they’re censoring my third option 👿
We were a few members wanting to create this one, so it came from a group effort rather than one person initiative.
Yea, just for sanity’s sake, I’d always thought there should be more than one mod. I figured you didn’t want to do it … ? Still, at this stage, all of this is a group effort and so some form of meta discussion really should be allowed more.
yeah, that sucks donkey balls. and for such a light topic as movies and tv? weird
sucks donkey balls.
Nice way of phrasing it ha ha
whats weird is i see 18 comment-count listed on my instance for this thread, but only see these (3) comments
I left Reddit for this very reason. The fuck
You should also consider that Lemmy is beta software and in heavy development stage. Things like this could easily happen in an instance without moderators noticing of the issues.
Despite being “decentralized,” things are still unilateral at an unprecedented amount and in a centralized way in many communities. If there’s one community moderator, it’s their community. If you delete your comment, they can un-delete it.
Administration works similarly; a community can be viewed across many servers but it’s controlled on only one (welcome to lemm.ee). That gives the admin veto power over any moderators from any server, despite where they’re from.
xyzzy@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Lemmy is to small for this kind of drama. If you want movie review threads, start movie review threads. Less complaining, more doing.
scytale@lemm.ee 9 months ago
When I check the community for any discussion of a current movie/series that I just watched and can’t find one, I just create a new discussion post. The mod/s haven’t taken them down so I guess that is the way to go.