Microsoft is working to eliminate PC gaming's "compiling shaders" wait times

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• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah. That’s the real problem microslop. The shader wait times. We all love copilot and the death of an OS. But these wait times is where we all draw a line.

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Oh no, the game with awesome graphics I spent money on to run on my awesome graphics card I also spent (way too much 😭) money on now wants to optimize its performance for my configuration specifically!? The audacity!”

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• Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  1. Steam already does this and it rarely helps due to how every card + driver revision requires its own unique compilation. I think Steam’s is opt-in though and I doubt Microsoft will give you a choice, so maybe they’ll have more luck due to the sheer amount of data they’ll be able to harvest. Ugh.
  2. I still genuinely hope it works out. I’ve been playing Enshrouded lately, which takes forty minutes to compile shaders on my machine after every driver update.

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  • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Every driver update? There goes my idea to compile while the game is downloading.

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    40 minutes??? Wtf?

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have a Skylake CPU. I know if Microslop goes through with this, it’ll just be another “oh sorry, can’t run this software on your hardware. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Please buy a new computer. Also SafeBoot and Intel for some reason.”

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    … forty minutes?

    Good lord.

    I think the longest amount of time I’ve spent compiling shaders on a Steam Deck is for Cyberpunk 77, and it can’t have been much more than 5 minutes.

    … Either that or trying to get a Switch emulator to properly pre-compile shaders.

    But anyway: This is an unaviodable thing that has to be done when the game relies so heavily on GPU shaders.

    You have to actually generate those shaders, before you can use them, and that’s gonna be specific to your hardware.

    So what MSFT is doing here is just pre-compiling them for I guess … every game they offer, with every Nvidia GPU/driver update, and then having a cloud system that allows you to download them instead of compiling them on your end.

    So basically its kinda like downloading a game + hardware specific driver, sort of.

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    Also, I… I’m not sure, but I don’t think Steam does this.

    Yeah, its indicated that shader compilation is happening in the ‘Download’ section, but so are ‘File Operations’ - aka, cleaning up loose files and doing memspace management …

    I am pretty sure you are just actually compiling the shaders on your own hardware, its just visualized to the user as a step in the ‘Download’ section, to get across the idea that the game isn’t ready to be played untill all those steps are complete.

    Or, you can change a setting somewhere, and it just skips that step so that it isn’t part of the initial ‘Download’ process, and instead occurs the first time you hit play, or, after any game/driver update that has delta’d the shader code.

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    • anguo@piefed.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Shaders are definitely downloaded on the Steam Deck. Don’t know about other hardware though.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not played enshrouded in a while, should play again sometime. Ideally play some coop too

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only got better 😍

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