And I’m still waiting on my steam controller reservation 😮💨
Steam Machine and Steam Frame shipping "this summer", Valve now rolling out verification systems
Submitted 3 weeks ago by cm0002@lemy.lol to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
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MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
The Steam Machine is DOA. It’s severely underpowered even at like a USD$399 price, so when it’s > USD$1000 it’s an absolute joke.
HER0@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
By what metric? It was never intended to complete with consoles for price to performance.
For PCs, have you seen the price of components? 2GB of DDR5 is already around 200 USD, and a 512 GB M.2 NVME drive is around 90 USD. There is no way that, with the current market, you can buy or build a 400 USD PC that has specs anywhere close to the Steam Machine. Speculative/rumored prices are similar to what you could get for the same priced mini PC.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
I’m not sure what your point is. I’m saying that even if it was $400, like many people are/were expecting it to be, it’s still severely underpowered. At the actual realistic price point of well over $1000, it’s DOA because it’s less powerful than even a PS5, which is closer to $400 than $1000.
Speculative/rumored prices are similar to what you could get for a similar spec mini PC.
The difference being that those mini-PCs will be able to play games like GTA6, Fortnite, PUBG, COD, Apex, etc, while the Steam Machine cannot, and you can also upgrade those mini PCs, unlike the Steam Machine. The SOC in it dooms it.
topcrest@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
$399? Are you talking about the steam deck? I think the article is talking about the steam machine.
Agreed tho, the cost of the steam machine will overpower what little value the hardware could provide. I don’t see it succeeding at this time. Especially when you can still cobble together a reasonably powered Linux machine.
Will also be interesting to see what future AAA titles do with the stagnant system hardware for the next few years.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
No, talking about the steam machine. There are still people that think it’s going to release at like $400-$500 lol. It’s going to be over $1k for PS4 level power.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Some people may not want to spend time on cobbling together a Linux machine. There’s some research involved in figuring out which hardware works best, and maybe fiddling around with configuring a system. There is value in know that all of the hardware in your system will get priority support from the OS maintainer and game developers. Some glitchiness in a game on a steam machine will get fixed before some glitchiness on someone’s custom rig.
And many of us don’t buy a new PC every year. What benefit is it to me if a new AAA game has higher resolution options that aren’t available on my 2+ year old PC unless I spend a thousand dollars to buy video card or whatever?
No idea if this will be a success or not, but there is a lot of upside to having a standardized platform (there’s a reason consoles are so popular) and little downsides for anyone that’s not spending more money on hardware than on the actual games. Sure the PC Master Race types won’t want this, but I think that’s a very small group of people.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I kind of feel like the Nvidia Spark reveal lit a bit of a fire under their ass. As well as several other announcements at Computex, such as the Intel Arc G3 stuff. I k ow the G3 is more in line with Steam Deck competition, but it shows what kind of power can be put in a small form factor. The Steam Machine is already looking like “last Gen” and it’s not even out yet. Price is really going to be what makes the SM make or break. I feel like they had a good plan, and then the RAMocolypse happened and it’s not looking so great now. I love Valve, and what they have done with Proton and for Linux Gaming is nothing short of amazing, but I’m worried about this one. The Steam Deck was amazing when it came out because of the price point. The current price is absolute insanity. Not worth it at all in my opinion, especially given it’s age.
I dunno. I really want this to work out, but it seems like every day things get more challenging.
And honestly, the Steam Machine isn’t even a thing for me. I have a great gaming PC that’s already hooked up to my TV. Don’t need it, never will. I am much more interested in the Steam Frame because it runs on ARM. I wholeheartedly believe that ARM is the way of the future, but the software side needed the pressure. Between Steam Frame, Nvidia Spark, and Apple Silicon, I feel like it’s actually finally happening.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The SM is likely for me, I planned on building a rig when my bonus came through this year but everything went mad. I was looking down the barrell of 3-5k which I am not really willing to spend and this would be the best prebuilt option, knowing it is designed to play games and being built for the living room.
That said its probably also out of reach now, value for money wise.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I wonder if they’re going to have a sku for the Frame with drastically reduced ram that’s required to be tethered to a host PC and not run anything on its own until upgraded.
Being a standalone unit is nice, but I wasn’t planning on using it that wqy, and being able to save money by reducing ram would be nice
ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
This would be smart. Like it would have been a bonus for me but it’s not worth the premium on ram right now.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The Frame is an embedded mobile device with space constraints, it’s going to have soldered ram and storage. At least it has a Micro SD card slot so you don’t have to necessarily pay for the biggest SSD.
nialv7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
if you reduce its ram to the point it’s no longer practical to run game on it anymore, then all the compute power it has will be wasted too. at this point might as well redesign from ground up to be a tether device…
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s literally my point. Let me buy the non-Meta headset now, and upgrade it with more ram in 2 years when the prices aren’t as stupid
HouseWolf@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
You basically just got a bigger more expensive Steam Link at that point. Which the original one should still work?
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SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Frame is a VR headset. How is that comparable to the Steam Link that is meant for display on a screen?
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I believe you are thinking of a Steam Machine with this response.
sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
If all I had was a big screen beyond with a steam link strapped to it that’s still a pretty great vr headset for the price
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
They’re not the same. The OG Steam Link isn’t a VR headset
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s what I’ve been wanting, but I don’t think so, at least not yet. I have a pretty powerful PC, and I don’t care to use this away from it. I’m totally fine with a tethered requirement. Being standalone is cool, but it isn’t worth the additional price in my opinion.