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Logitech to ship mice with replaceable batteries in Europe only, following Nintendo

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨nemeski@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.zip⁩

https://www.techspot.com/news/113278-logitech-ship-mice-replaceable-batteries-europe-only-following.html

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  • seathru@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Calling it now. These “replaceable batteries” are going to be propitiatory and marked up like printer cartridges.

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    • AChiTenshi@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So this is not the first time Logitech will have had a mouse with a replaceable battery. The Logitech G7 had a swappable rechargeable battery and it was great.

      But yes it was a proprietary battery, but you only needed 2. One in the mouse and one in the recharge station. Swapping them out was basically the push of one button. I would love it if they went back to that sort of design.

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      • seathru@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’ve had lots with replaceable batteries. I really miss my G604. You could swap the 2 AA’s in about 10 seconds without even picking the mouse up.

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      • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is why I only buy wired mouse. Why should I deal with that crap just to get rid of a wire that never bothered me.

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      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve been using rechargeable AAs in my G602 for almost 2 decades. There’s absolutely no need for proprietary bullshit to be involved when it comes to powering a mouse. Even the shitty little inland one I carry around in my work bag takes a AA.

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      • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah, non-propreitary or the mouse can remain unsold.

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      • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Savage, but then a mouse would be uncharacteristically heavy with a standard barrel battery, right??. A button may work but nobody makes rechargeable buttons yet.

        I switched from my fancy pants Turtle Beach Elite 800X headset, the top brand before Astro A40 and Arctis Nova Pro released, to a SteelSeries Siberia 800. Going from a dodgy, dying-battery premium headset to a midrange that comes with two batteries and more can be purchased was a (quite literal) game changer. So I can attest to Steelseries being great. Side bonus the batteries were coincidentally interchangeable with a few brands of Nokia but can’t remember which ones.

        My point is, SteelSeries are a great brand and they make mice with interchangeable, AAA, batteries. Like the Rival 3

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    • 79WistfulVista@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they take something like a standard CR2 sized lithium rechargeable and stuff it into a proprietary plastic shell. Solely to screw over the customers who need replacements, but won’t be bothered to design their own battery to optimize capacity for the available space.

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        at least we can 3dprint that sort of thing. until they design them specifically to make that difficult, anyways

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      nah, they will be off the shelf cells in a sonic-welded case.

      And whatever will I, and my Dremel, and met soldering iron, and my 3d printers, do? oh no!?

      Let them screw around. they are just teaching consumers how to replace brands entirely.

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      • seathru@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        nah, they will be off the shelf cells in a sonic-welded case.

        Yeah, that’s what I said. 99.5% of mouse customers are not going through that trouble.

        Let them screw around. they are just teaching consumers how to replace brands entirely.

        That’s what ran HP and Cannon out of business isn’t it?

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  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I prefer mine with a cord. It looks like there are still plenty of wireless mice available that use AA batteries. Eneloop batteries work great for those.

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  • callmemagnus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, following the law not Nintendo

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    • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Following Nintendo as in “removable only in EU, fuck the rest of the world”.

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      • quick_snail@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fuck the US forbnit harmonizing this law

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mice don’t need sealed in batteries. What the hell…

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  • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t buy a cordless mouse that couldn’t use rechargeable AA’s or AAA’s. Consumers really need to take control, these companies deliberately create ewaste.

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    • Bakkoda@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I bought Keychron keyboard because it found be used wired or wirelessly. Why can’t mice do the same? I don’t see many options at all for that.

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      • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Game controllers can generally be used that way too, so you pose a good question.

        The only logical answer might be because they want to create waste, and consumers have not demanded that they offer corded/cordless mice.

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      • philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My logitech mouse can. It needs a bit of plastic around the usb port though, presumably because the port itself isn’t strong enough.

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m on my 2nd set of switches on my current mouse from ~2010 because I can’t find a new one with that and a button layout that is as good. It’s insane to me that no one has made a viable replacement since then.

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    • 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eh, I just have the mouse cable/charger on my desk connected to the 2.4ghz receiver, super quick to just plug it in while in a game, no need to go find unused batteries.

      Though i must admit, mice using AA-batteries can last like a year, right? Which is pretty cool though.

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      • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I use corded, have previously used rechargeable AA mice though, it’s not an issue and you don’t have to worry about the built in battery ever being the problem with the mouse.

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    • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why? I really want one I dont have to think about again. USB c charging.

      Hell I wish they would make a mouse that recharges from movement and clicking.

      Logitech have a solar keyboard that is allllll I want.

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      • eremophila@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Batteries do not last forever.

        These dodgy companies have it far too easy with apathetic consumerists. No wonder the world is on fire.

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        but you will have to think about it again when the battery dies and won’t recharge

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  • golinux@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I absolutely refuse to buy any small gadgets using rechargeable batteries. I buy either wired, or using standard AA/AAA batteries.
    I am seeing the similar trend in pocket and tabletop radios, which is an absolute nonsense.

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    • Glowstick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And you can get rechargeable AA and AAA batteries

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      • golinux@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Exactly! Using proprietary battery shapes and sealing them inside the devices benefits only the manufacturer - everybody else loses. I also can’t believe the bullshit excuses they use to justify this: “open designs can’t be waterproof” (yes, they can), “sealed cases are thinner and lighter” (by a fraction of measurement nobody can even appreciate in daily use), etc.

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  • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hate not living in Europe

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Take note everybody, these are the companies that care more about profits than their consumers.

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  • Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My mice have always had the grip fall off long before I experienced any battery issues.

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  • errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is this even a large number of mice in the USA? Every wireless mouse I’ve bought has a normal battery…

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    • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only the very low end in my experience use AA or AAA. Which one do you have?

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      • LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve seen plenty of mid to high end mice that come with rechargeable AA batteries and a USB charging port.

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      • zer0hour@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Logitech g604

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good, it’s a start.

    Now if only they manage to prove they’ll stop their spyware/bloatware bs I might consider buying something from them. But I’m not in a hurry.

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