Steam Frame Teardown: We’re Fans. Except of the Fan - iFixit

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• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Too bad it’s a bit too much of a hassle to remove the pancake lenses if you don’t need them.

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I maintain that it always should have been a streaming-only headset. Without controllers. Everyone seems to agree the older Index controllers are better.

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  • recklessengagement@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They mention that the compute required to support streaming was also already enough to run standalone games. Removing the ability to run games on the headset wouldn’t have changed the design much anyway.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      How doed that even work? You can stream games from a Raspberry Pi. That’s why there’s an entire industry dedicated to exactly that.

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Where do they say this? I don’t know why that much ram and processing and storage would be required for just the streaming and fov stuff.

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  • nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You cannot use the index controllers without lighthouses

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  • scallisto@retrofed.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    VR headsets effectively need to run two 4K displays, one for each eye, and you have all the processing for controller tracking too. You also have eye tracking, they’re doing the whole foveated streaming thing everybody has been gushing over about (it’s really cool tech!). The mobile chip they used is nothing special, it’s a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, a 3 year old smartphone processor (certainly powerful enough to run lighter PC games, but nothing more than that. It’s kind of insane that a phone can even do that nowadays!)

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s kind of insane that a phone can even do that nowadays!

      This is what also makes me very sure that being able to play offline will never go away regardless of how hard they try to push gaming into the cloud. Local processing power of common devices is more than enough for the decades of pc games that have been released sans the last decade or so, and they are also good enough to emulate a whole host of gaming devices.

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    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The mobile chip they used is nothing special, it’s a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, a 3 year old smartphone processor (certainly powerful enough to run lighter PC games, but nothing more than that. It’s kind of insane that a phone can even do that nowadays!)

      Actually, you can totally run some more demanding PC games on it without any issues. A Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, so slightly weaker, is able to run The Witcher 3 at 720p, Steam Deck preset, in 30+ fps.

      And that’s with several compatibility layers in between the SoC and the game.

      Mobile ARM chips have come so far we might as well be using them for laptops instead of Intel or AMD (just like the recent MacBook Neo using an iPhone chip). More than good enough performance, especially in case of 8 Elite, at a fraction of the power draw.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s 2x2k, not 4k

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  • KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If it was, it would have been of no interest to me. I quite like what they made.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s fine but it would have been way way cheaper, less noisy, lighter, more comfortable, more efficient, longer battery, etc. and they could have sold it to way more people. And you’re not running much of anything natively on that Qualcomm processor anyway.

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  • tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I obviously havent tried the the frame controllers but the Index controllers are amazing.

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    • bilb@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mine completely fell apart. I wasn’t smacking them into things, but maybe I was gripping too tight?

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