Open Menu
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
lotide
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
Login

Self-Hosting a DNS Sinkhole is really important

⁨181⁩ ⁨likes⁩

Submitted ⁨⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨chagall@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.wired.com/story/nightmare-scenario-zero-click-spyware-is-infecting-phones-via-targeted-ads/

source

Comments

Sort:hotnewtop
  • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    The situation is so concerning, he notes, because there isn’t much that people can do to protect themselves from zero-click ad attacks other than blocking ads as thoroughly as possible on all websites and platforms—a fact that intelligence agencies like the NSA and CIA seem to know all too well.

    Or disable JavaScript

    source
  • LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I only know the basics of networking, so I’ve been wondering why this “DNS-sinkhole” fubctionality can’t simply be implemented directly in private routers as a simple blocklist instead of adding a new device to your network. Do routers not support this for technical or security reasons?

    source
    • BlackSwan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Routers are usually hardware level optimized for throughput, filtering is inherently computationally expensive compared to routing, especially if you have to keep up multi-gigabit throughput

      You could totally do it at the router, it would just become a more expensive piece of hardware and most people choose to cheap out

      source
  • vision@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The last time I opened the Wired site was like 10 years ago, it’s still telling me “You’ve read your last free article.” See you in 2036 ig

    source
    • chagall@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ha. Here’s the direct source: citizenlab.ca/…/how-discover-tech-turned-targeted…

      source
      • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I guessed that an Israeli company would be behind this, and I was right. Am I antisemite?

        source
      • UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This reads like a dystopian fever dream, fuck me.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “You’ve read your last free article.”

      Do they know how ominous that sounds? It reads like they got mad at my freeloading and sent out a hitman.

      source
      • jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Or they know the date and time of your very natural death…

        You’ve read your last free article. We suggest going to the doctor for a full workup. Screen for everything. Get a will drawn up. Hug your kids.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Tells me that too. Then I copy the url into my readeck instance and it pulls the article for me and gives me a better reading experience.

      source
    • Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wow they gave you a time to come back, they have just said I have surpassed my 5 free articles for years now, I think it is because I am using a “DNS sink hole”/adblocker I do not care enough to turn my pihole off just to try and read it.

      I have gotten a static IP, and clear my cache regularly since my last attempt to read a wired article so it is not that they are using anything to see that I have tried them before.

      source
      • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Na I have regular DNS and I can’t read from wired for years too

        source
  • trojanbark@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unbound on OPNsense ftw

    source
    • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I love Unbound bro. Gives a neat list of the noisest domains which I can quickly add to my list if I don’t need that site 😌

      source
  • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What is a DNS sinkhole and how is it related to the content of the article? Didn’t seem to mention DNS

    source
    • chagall@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is a DNS sinkhole

      A DNS sinkhole is a little program that sits in between your computer and the DNS server that provides your internet lookups. It looks at all of your DNS requests in an unencrypted format. If a DNS lookup from your browser, mobile app or any other internet connected machine matches an entry it has in its “blocklist” then it returns a value of 0.0.0.0 (or some other customizable value including NXDOMAIN). But if the DNS entry is not on the blocklist, then that request will be forwarded to Cloudflare (1.1.1.1), Google (8.8.8.8), Quad9 (9.9.9.9) or other DNS provider and get an accurate value for the DNS lookup.

      Most of the time, the blocklists consist of adware domains such as Google Ad Services, Facebook Ads, Amazon Ads, etc. This has the effect of removing ads from devices that normally are unable to block ads such as ads inside mobile apps, ads in Roku, etc.

      how is it related to the content of the article?

      The article indicated that the malicious spyware was transmitted through viewable ads on the target’s mobile device. This is combated most effectively by using a DNS sinkhole.

      I should note that the article does not mention if current blocklists would have thwarted this attack. However, it does say that the ads were transmitted, in some instances, via Google Ad services, which these blocklists do effectively target.

      source
      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Tldr; pi-hole

        source
      • puppinstuff@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This sounds like AdGuard Home is an example?

        source
      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thank you, that kind of explanation exactly what i was hoping for!

        source
  • bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I like technitium. Way better than pi hole.

    source
    • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In what way(s)?

      source
      • bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s a more complete dns server. You can more easily do dns over https, set up zones, and custom dns entries are a lot easier imo.

        In summary it’s more focused on being dns, the ad blocking is a feature on top. You also don’t have to manually configure unbound for recursive dns like you do pi hole. Etc etc

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The main way is it has a built in recursive DNS server so you don’t have to duct tape Pi Hole and Ubound together

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • kmartburrito@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is the way

      source
  • lemmylump@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    [deleted]
    source
    • Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have a finally tuned pihole that offers different blocking for different vLANs on my home network and VPNs, I would not trust a third party for ad blocking. However you do you.

      I was watching SomeOrdanryGamers video on this and his pihole did not block all the ads on an ad infected site, but mine could. I have used canyoublockit many times to stress test my system, wish there was something newer though.

      source
      • lemmylump@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Trust it, no.

        Is it better than nothing yes.

        Listen, some folks can afford to build and dedicate time and resources to making a pi-hole for their network.

        Those who can’t need to know there are alternatives, some are better than others, I’m just sharing information.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • Seimhe@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thanks for the tip. I can’t find pricing on the NextDNS site. Is it free?

      Don’t think I have the spoons for things like PiHole.

      source
      • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s free for a limited number of queries per month. Generally enough for one device (depending on personal usage, obviously).

        Mullvad has a free ad-blocking DNS you can use, too. I recommend the “base” version: mullvad.net/en/…/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • dehyzer@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is Adguard Home still a good option for this kind of thing?

    source
    • Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, from what I understand. They are using ad services from the big ad companies, and because capitalism sucks they are completely fine with selling the spots.

      if you do not have a system to VPN into your home I would suggest get a firewall (preferably one you can install openWRT of opnSense on) and VPN into your LAN when away from home.

      source
      • jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My TPlink omada router has Wireguard built in, so I use WG tunnels on my mobile devices to tunnel home where my PiHole (soon to be replaced by Technitium) blocks ads and malicious content.

        source
        • -> View More Comments