What are some mainstream game series where you really do need to start from the first game?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨CorrodedCranium@leminal.space⁩ to ⁨gaming@lemmy.zip⁩

Some games have decent recaps or disconnected stories which mean you can start from the latest release and still have the full experience.

In Fallout for example, with the 3D games, you can start wherever and because it’s a new protagonist and location every time you aren’t missing a ton. The disconnect is slightly more noticeable going from Fallout to Fallout 2 (the isometric titles) however because of how the games build on top of each other.

What I am wondering about are series where you really do need to start from the beginning (or some early point) to get the full experience.

Can you think of any examples that are truly difficult?

Maybe they started on DOS, MSX, or the NES and their latest releases are on the PS5 and Xbox Series X and on top of that the genre shifted.

For context I am playing The Witcher 2 and I feel like I’m missing a notable part of the story. That might be because it’s a fantasy game though and it isn’t based in our world.

It made me think of Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. Two popular series where I don’t know how interconnected the games are.

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Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Mass Effect. What you did in the first game affects the later two.

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- Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah, this is also the only thing I could think of.
  
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- Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  dragon age as well.
  
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Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think The Witcher sequels always feel like you’ve missed a game somewhere even if you played all of them. They introduce Yennefer in W3, and I assumed she was in W2 since I never finished it, but apparently she wasn’t.

A lot of the backstory is in the books rather than the games.

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- Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Well shit, maybe I need to play the rest of Witcher 3… I stopped because it felt like I missed a whole lot from before (and also because it’s hard to devote time to having while raising a toddler and working)
  
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  - Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s long but worth it.
    
    I assume you’ve got the GOTY edition if you’re playing after all this time. I recommend doing the Blood and Wine DLC last. It feels right in that order. B&W got all the attention when it came out, because of just how much content there was in it, but it’s Hearts of Stone that I still think about years later.
    
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MrGerrit@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Never played them myself, but apparently the kingdom hearts series is one that you should play from the very first entry.

But the series is crazy extensive, it even got mobile games that aren’t available any more but do have important canon lore in it.

AVGN had video about the game’s timeline.

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- Sythas@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And before the PS4 HD-Remasters, you also needed a lot different consoles. I think you needed to have to play all of the games a PS2, PSP, GBA, Nintendo DS+3DS, a Smartphone and for the third part a PS4. In the remaster Edition some of the games were as a compilation of cut scenes and text
  
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- secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I feel like you could get away with playing them chronologically instead of release order
  
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ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This was a surprisingly difficult question and I had to dig into my library for inspiration but here are some games that I would recommend that (mostly) require starting from the beginning of the story:

The Last Of Us

Uncharted

Dishonored

God of War (2018 and Ragnarok definitely, original PS2+PSP games for extra depth and different game style)

Hellblade (sequel doesn’t release until next month but I’m still pretty confident in this answer)

Loose Fits

Portal

Dead Space

F.E.A.R.

Resistance

Honorable Mentions as I can’t personally attest to having not beaten every game

Shadow of Mordor

Mass Effect (I know it’s been mentioned)

Dragon Age (same as above)

BioShock
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- CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Is Bioshock Infinite that connected to the first the two games? I can’t recall a lot of callbacks.
  
  I feel like that’s one of those situations where you could use Infinite as a starting point then go back and play the originals.
  
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  - Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The main game is in a broad sense, but there’s also DLC that strengthens this where you go to Rapture.
    
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  - ObsidianZed@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s probably the series I have the least experience with from my list so you may be correct.
    
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  - Blahnominous@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Without spoiling, there is a reveal that ties all the BioShock games together in Infinite. That reveal would be much more impactful if you have knowledge of the others, and might not make any sense if it’s your first BioShock experience.
    
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MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Jumping into the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series from a random point would be incredibly confusing because of the storyline.

There are actually 3 good entry points (Yakuza 0, Yakuza 1/Kiwami, or Yakuza 7: Like A Dragon) but couldn’t recommend starting outside one of that set.

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- Deello@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yakuza is a wild as a series. Personally I’d recommend starting with the kiwami games THEN 0. Zero plays great and feels modern but the story feels out of place as a prequel. Playing it in a pseudo machete order gives it a better fit before jumping ship to the like a dragon timeline. Starting with zero leads to heartbreak. At some point it really does feel like the Vader twist in Star Wars, iykyk
  
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djsoren19@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I kinda see DOOM (2016) as the tutorial for DOOM Eternal. The sequel isn’t really interested in elaborating or even giving you time to process Doomguys arsenal, it just wants to lob even more new stuff at you. When played directly after DOOM, it feels like you’ve had a warm-up and are prepared to master more advanced concepts like juggling your flamethrower + ice bomb to supply your hp. When played without any of the original, it feels pretty overwhelming.

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IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The Metal Gear series is interconnected to a high degree. Sure the games are perfectly playable without playing the previous games, but you’d miss a lot of plot points. Like for example even the PSP games are pretty vital to the story. Because several characters of Peace Walker show up in MGS5 without much explanation of who they are.

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- CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Would you need to go all the way back and play the original Metal Gear or is Metal Gear Solid a decent starting point?
  
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  - learningduck@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Solid is a decent starting point. I think the only notable recurring character is Grey Fox, which could get you confused, and that’s it.
    
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LouNeko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The Witcher. You can even transfer your save game between 1 & 2 and 2 & 3.

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- Nacktmull@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  After playing through The Witcher III a few times, I did a “lap of honour” run and played The Witcher I, II and III right after another with transferred save games. It is a nice feature sure but the impact on the playthrough of each single game is pretty negligible. Also, I liked the first part for being a solid crpg but I found that the second part often plays like a half baked prototype of the third part and playing through it felt more like a chore than a nice buildup to the great third part. If somebody wants to get into The Witcher, I would recommend skipping the first two parts and just simulate a save file if you want to influence certain prior decisions.
  
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- Lojcs@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Doesn’t Witcher 2 just ignore your love interest from 1
  
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Even if the stories don’t connect, I always would recommend starting at the earliest point in a series and moving forward, since this allows for a better appreciation of the evolution of the game over several iterations rather than being disappointed by the regression you would see going backwards or jumping around.

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- CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Even if the stories don’t connect, I always would recommend starting at the earliest point in a series and moving forward, since this allows for a better appreciation of the evolution of the game over several iterations rather than being disappointed by the regression you would see going backwards or jumping around.
  
  How do you approach remakes/remasters, franchise reboots, and prequels in that case? Do you play them in release order?
  
  I think taking that approach would put a lot of people in the situation where they are forcing themselves to play something they don’t really want to. How many people have gone back and played TES Arena or even Morrowind?
  
  Maybe it’s because I like completing games that I start but I feel like just trying every game that lead up to Skyrim would get tiring in a hurry.
  
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JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think anyone can benefit from playing fallout 1 and 2,since most people started on 3

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- CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I agree but I wouldn’t recommend it to a casual fan. I think most of them would view it as more of a novelty and only get so far in the game.
  
  If someone was looking for more Fallout after playing 3, NV, and 4 I’d probably recommend a game outside of the franchise that has similar themes like Metro 2033 or STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl.
  
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