No level of alcohol consumption is safe when it comes to human health, according to a WHO statement released in January, 2023. The data behind this dire warning come from a 2021 study that estimated the number of incident cancers attributable to alcohol consumption in the EU in 2017—light to moderate drinking (1–2 drinks per day) was responsible for 23 300 new cases of cancer. New Canadian guidelines take a strong stance too, suggesting that any more than two drinks per week puts your health at risk. Does this mean the days of safely enjoying a tipple are officially behind us?
Hey cope, thanks for the reply. Consider how we use alcohol to make things like turkey, pork etc tender. Alcohol breaks down fibrous connective tissue, so your bourbon-bbq pulled pork is especially soft and succulent.
Now, consider what happens in your body. A toxic agent reaching all corners of your body, vs an irritating cloud of ash which gets trapped in your alveoli. Neither is good, but evidence strongly suggests that it’s harder to hurt yourself with flower vs booze.
For the record, I partake in both on occasion, but I definitely think alcohol is worse for me, personally. Everybody’s different.
People on YouTube with a plastic bottle and a bicycle pump. You pressurize a bottle with a little bit of liquor and then depressurize it very quickly. That makes a vapor that can be inhaled and actually gets you drunk.
Instead of asserting this raw, try linking to a source. You won’t change anyone’s mind like this (or rather, you will, but “source: trust me” is a pretty shitty way to go about that
The top post on here has someone claiming bud is safer without linking, but they are greatly upvoted. I hope you have the same feedback for people with opinions that support your biases.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 months ago
Health wise?
Depends. If you’re an edibles fan you’re set, but smoking is smoking, cope.
can@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Safer, not safe
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 months ago
At least some of us know how to properly parse words lol
ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Glass of wine with dinner is 100% safe, if not beneficial.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 9 months ago
This is false. Alcohol is never beneficial. This is a debunked myth.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Not beneficial, both your comment and your attempt at rationalizing use of booze. In excess, both are bad.
The point, which hasn’t changed, is that it takes a lot more smoking to cause damage equivalent to what booze causes, even in small amounts.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 months ago
Safer doesn’t mean perfectly safe.
You could much more easily die from over consumption of alcohol than you could from smoking weed.
ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Is being able to die the only variable? Seems like a comparison of only the extreme.
Having a few glasses of wine a week with food is fine. Smoking a joint from time to time is fine.
Being dependent on any psychoactive is harmful to one’s mental health regardless.
smooth_tea@lemmy.world 9 months ago
www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/…/fulltext#:~:t…)00073%2D5-,Alcohol%20and%20health%3A%20all%2C%20none,%2C%20or%20somewhere%20in%2Dbetween%3F&text=No%20level%20of%20alcohol%20consumption,statement%20released%20in%20January%2C%202023.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Hey cope, thanks for the reply. Consider how we use alcohol to make things like turkey, pork etc tender. Alcohol breaks down fibrous connective tissue, so your bourbon-bbq pulled pork is especially soft and succulent.
Now, consider what happens in your body. A toxic agent reaching all corners of your body, vs an irritating cloud of ash which gets trapped in your alveoli. Neither is good, but evidence strongly suggests that it’s harder to hurt yourself with flower vs booze.
For the record, I partake in both on occasion, but I definitely think alcohol is worse for me, personally. Everybody’s different.
retrieval4558@mander.xyz 9 months ago
Agree. I work in an ICU and see the effects of alcohol and tobacco CONSTANTLY. I’ve seen a serious problem from cannabis once.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Maybe you haven’t yet learned to recognize the impacts of marijuana on people
www.forbes.com/sites/amandaflorian/2023/…/amp/
XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
It’s because of combustion tho, right? using a dry herb vaporizer will prevent that then
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’re right. Just trying to counter the very confused people saying a glass of wine everyday is good for you lol.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Weed is much safer than alcohol, even if you smoke it
Zehzin@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Whi tf is smoking alcohol
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Dad, mom says you’re supposed to get off Lemmy and help cook breakfast
tacosplease@lemmy.world 9 months ago
People on YouTube with a plastic bottle and a bicycle pump. You pressurize a bottle with a little bit of liquor and then depressurize it very quickly. That makes a vapor that can be inhaled and actually gets you drunk.
player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Check out dry herb vaping, the safest way to “smoke” weed without combustion. Still not perfect but way better in every way.
kattenluik@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Tinctures are great.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There is new research that marijuana may be bad for your heart.
Sidhean@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Instead of asserting this raw, try linking to a source. You won’t change anyone’s mind like this (or rather, you will, but “source: trust me” is a pretty shitty way to go about that
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The top post on here has someone claiming bud is safer without linking, but they are greatly upvoted. I hope you have the same feedback for people with opinions that support your biases.
ucsf.edu/…/marijuana-and-e-cigs-can-harm-heart-tr…
health.com/regular-marijuana-use-increase-risk-of…
www.forbes.com/sites/amandaflorian/2023/…/amp/