Comment on The Plucky Squire recently came out, and used the Steam Deck to represent PC

• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Steam Deck is not just a PC, and its not just a handheld.

  Yes. It’s both… And it is fully functioning as either.

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I also explained what i told. Its more than just both, its a target. Its really not difficult to understand.

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    • GammaGames@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because Steam Deck is not just a PC and cannot share the same enjoyment and benefits of a regular PC, because it’s a handheld.

      This is where you lost most people. When people pointed out that it was incorrect you started adding more words and insisting that everyone else was wrong and you were just misunderstood.

      What you’re saying about it being a target is true and is part of what makes it so valuable as a platform, but saying it’s a target does not counter your misconception that it cannot also be used as a PC.

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I don’t know if you guys misunderstand me on purpose. My argumentation was about the initial comment that the Steam Deck does not represent PC very well. You just took one sentence out of context, where the previous part and following part is integratel part of my reply. I did not just add more words to it, i Just had to explain it later because its not understood. The full quote is:

        Because Steam Deck is not just a PC and cannot share the same enjoyment and benefits of a regular PC, because its a handheld. I believe the Steam Deck should be handled as its own class of hardware, like a console is and do a PC showcase on its own.

        It’s just a simple explanation that you guys on purpose misunderstand. The Steam Deck does not represent PC very well on its own, because its not just a PC. It’s more than its sum. It’s not a new discussion either, this is going on since the launch of the system.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  the operating system and user interface is optimized for gaming

  Most of the “optimizations” are either generic Linux improvements that exist in many distros or are can be easily installed on any PC. Meanwhile the UI is literally just Steam gamepadui, any PC could access it, any PC can launch Steam on boot and set Steam to launch into Steam big picture mode. The only optimizations are just a set of good defaults and software that works well together.

  Its a console that can be targeted

  Yeah because its a popular piece of hardware running amazing software, thats something Windows handhelds dont have. What people dont understand about SteamOS is it isn’t that optimized, thats because Linux is so optimized as an OS that Valve doesn’t need to do much on top of it.

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There is even an API in Steam that directly targets the Steam Deck. Steam Deck can be programmatically identified by its API, just like any other console. This is a key factor.

    We are not speaking about any random hardware configuration or tablet, we are speaking about a device with software and hardware specifically designed, build, tested, targeted and marketed as a single unit. Exactly what a console is. However, I’m not disregarding its roots of PC. What I am saying is, that Steam Deck does not represent PC “very well”; its its own thing, even compared to other handheld PCs. If the Steam is marketed as a PC, then it won’t get the support from the developers.

    Steam Deck is its own category, besides general PC. Games need to have different Spec Recommendations for PC and one specific optimized version for Steam Deck. Both are separated.

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    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Games need to have different Spec Recommendations for PC and one specific optimized version for Steam Deck. Both are separated.

      You’re just wrong here, they don’t need special versions at all, you’re normally just given windows .exe files and told to use proton to make the games work, even

      This is good, actually, as it lets you change your settings in-game just like on normal PCs, so if you want more battery life you can turn them down, or if you’re plugged in you can turn them up

      Your idea there is just bad and wrong, sorry

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      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, and I explained multiple times why. You just keep ignoring what I wrote and take things out of context without having an understanding of the statement. It’s not “my idea”, but I’m done with stupidity.

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