Comment on Three years later, the Steam Deck has dominated handheld PC gaming
penquin@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I still think Valve need to release the SD2 soon before these manufacturers eat their dinner. I know steam will still make money when these manufacturers succeed, but still, a SD2 is a must.
There’s really nothing much better on the chip market if you’re concerned about power/battery life.
Valve has no reason to get into a hardware pissing contest. They just want to grow the Steam pie so don’t expect a SD2 until there’s a compelling difference.
I’ve yet to see another handheld that has touchpads like the Deck. IMO those are a must-have because a lot of older games especially don’t have good controller support.
one of the recent announcements had them. Forgot which one, though
Ayaneo Next II seems to have two trackpads and Lenovo Legion Go 2 only one.
Zotac zone just released one with both. Lol
Agreed. The touchpads are one of the key points why the Deck is so great to me. I could live with only one, but it really requires at least one touchpad; ideally two.
I think as long as PC handheld are winning Valve is more interested in have them ship steam or even better - steamos.
The upgrades from other devices felt very marginal tho it feels like we’re close to where new steamdeck would make sense power wise.
I mean it makes total sense since I’m almost positive that Valve is probably not making any profits from the decks they sell, and their money is from Steam. So, having it on more “mainstream” devices is better for them. Steam deck OLED is actually more powerful than the legion go S from what I’ve seen online so far
Having arch based os become mainstream would be huge for linuc gaming. Steamdeck already is and it just showing how much better linux is for gaming when approached with proper resources.
I was just reading the Verge’s review of legion go s and Bazzite was giving like 10-40% performance improvement over windows - that’s just crazy.
Absolutely. Linux is open and has less overhead and background garbage that runs at all times. Linux is also very modular and you can strip all the things you don’t and add only what you do need to it.
Steam deck OLED is actually more powerful than the legion go S from what I’ve seen online so far
I strongly doubt that considering the head-to-head specs of the Z2 Go vs the Sephiroth APU. They’re both 4c/8t but the Z2 has significantly faster base clock and turbo on both the CPU & GPU, as well as more compute & shader units, and hardware raytracing.
The Z1 Extreme in the original Legion Go also dominates over the Deck with even higher clocks, and an 8c/16t CPU. Plus with Bazzite you get a SteamOS-like experience.
However you’re 100% right about the fact that Valve don’t necessarily care about the Deck making money. They made it to create a market segment that makes them more profits on Steam, and to encourage the push towards Linux gaming due to their long-term cold war with Microsoft. What I’d actually love to see them do is a Steam Deck Pro with the Z2 Extreme and a 1440p display. Maybe with a bottom USB-C port, a proper dock and a revamped Steam Controller.
It’s more powerful in a different way. Read this and you’ll know what I’m talking about. :)
I still think Valve need to release the SD2 soon before these manufacturers eat their dinner.
The other PC handhelds aren’t really competitors in the classical sense. Valve can (unlike the consoles) wait and release the Steam Deck 2 whenever it is ready. No need to rush and make it bad. Remember, most people buying a PC handheld to play PC games will probably install Steam. And it does not make any difference for Valve if they purchased the game on Steam Deck or any other PC system, as the price cut is the same across hardware.
Sure, Valve wants to sell and control the PC handheld as much as possible. But bringing out any new device is not that urgent right now. Valve got already what they want; the Steam Deck is the default target by developers, when it comes to PC handheld.
I agree, but I think Valve has said a Steam Deck 2 isn’t coming anytime soon. I was wanting to hold out for an announcement, but I might just go ahead and pull the trigger.
I’m curious about the Go 2. Huge OLED screen… I know it’s not supposed to come out for a minute, but it’s tempting.
The ergonomics put me off of the first Go, it was not comfy to hold when I tried the display model. But I think they’re addressing that. We’ll have to see how it goes.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Their big thing is that the new steam deck 2 has to be a significant performance increase over the existing steam deck, and that’s not really an option yet
pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Their approach leaves me with conflicting feelings.
On one hand, I dislike how the Steam Deck is among the weaker offerings for performance. On the other hand, I appreciate that it’s not a commodified device like phones, which keep increasing in price with only miniscule incremental improvements year over year.
It wouldn’t be as conflicting if they had better competitors followed the yearly-improvement business model, as that would give more of a choice for those who prefer buying a new device each year. But, at least right now, the competing devices are pretty shit. None of them have dual track pads and 4 back buttons in addition to the standard inputs, and they’re all running Windows 11.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Honestly the Steam Deck could never become more powerful and I would be perfectly fine with it. Hardware reliability, ecosystem maturity and quality of life features are what actually matters.
Chasing performance to improve Steam Deck sales I think is a subpar play, though that being said more powerful hardware is always welcome.
TheresNodiee@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I agree completely. I would love if the popularity of mid-range handheld devices like the SD convinced more companies to steer away from the obsession with ever increasing graphical fidelity.
It’s also nice having a handheld PC that is so reasonably priced in comparison to a lot of the other offerings in the handheld PC market.