The post says AUR builds are being blocked and soon Linux support will be dropped entirely.
Dev doesn’t allow packages of his open source project, people keep creating packages, dev stops support for the OS entirely.
DuckStation dev dropping support for Linux
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Internet@lemmy.dbzer0.com to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/30df16cc767297c544e1311a3de4d10da30fe00c
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cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 weeks ago
jwz & Igara Studio S.A. had the exact same issue with distros maintainers, that they were forced to disallow QA testing and logging for distro related situations that really isn’t their focus.
Distro makers need to dogfood their own packages, their own support system, and their testing, separate of the original software maker.
Analogy for commoners: This is like asking a bidet seat maker to fix your entire toilet/bathroom. Like no, get a plumber, workers, and a designer to make your dream toilet. Leave the seat maker alone.
spoiler
you still got to clean the toilet every week. Seat makers are not janitors.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My take on a better analogy:
The bidet maker is pissed because people complain to him that their bidet is leaking or has cracks. He’s annoyed at a distribution/installation company because they fumbled, so he’ll handle installation himself but only to the houses he approves.
Oh, and the bidets are free and nobody gets paid a cent.
rowdy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
make free open source software
people repackage for their distros
get mad when you receive support requests for outdated packages
change license to prevent further repackages
Linux users continue using old version to avoid restrictive license change
Continue to receive support requests for old packages before license change
crash out
Am I doing this right?
embed_me@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Yes but be sure to be condescending through it all
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The entitlement is strong. But not with the person who creates an open source emulator in their spare time and gives it away for free, but for those who demand free support.
Matty_r@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Sucks that people are so shitty about problems that crop up in FOSS. Just be nice about things and it wouldn’t be a problem, the developer owes you nothing.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Homie doesnt let you fork the shit to maintain it yourself. He made the problem.
Matty_r@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Doesn’t change how people treat developers. I gather this guy isn’t that great, but people should just move elsewhere instead of being hostile.
DishonestBirb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just do it anyways, fuck what he wants.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then it’s not FOSS.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
The dev forbids packaging his emulator via licence. I’m pleading that they’re the asshole.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because he kept getting entitled support requests for badly packaged versions of his project in some linux distros.
Yttra@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Stenzek seems to have a history of being the problem… I don’t know if their words should be taken at face value, or that they’re arguing in good faith at all
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
And you can’t even fork it
Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
From the looks of it the version most people use (the one that comes in package managers) was already forked awhile ago from the version the dev did allow to be forked, and the official version hasn’t been used in package managers for awhile, because the second version was under a read only license and distros therefore couldn’t package it.
DishonestBirb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sure you can. Absolutely nothing actually prevents it.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The licence is not FOSS its its creative commons no derivatives meaning no forks its a source available licence
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
License doesn’t allow you to do it
Templa@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Two things can be true at the same time:
- I am grateful you are using your time to develop free and open source software without gaining anything in return.
- Being pissed at people asking for support for something you didn’t make, do not give you a free pass on being an asshole by changing your license
suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
it is okay for a FOSS project to start with one person.
but if it is growing and there is still only one persons doing most commits, that is a yellow flag. sign to look at alternatives.
i am speaking as both user and maintainer.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
He even rewrote parts of the code that weren’t by him in order to remove the GPL license.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I think I’ve been using pcsxr for too long to care.
Is there anything that makes duckstation worth using over the other psx emulators?
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Apparently it’s really good. I think I have it on my steam deck. But I recently just dusted off a ps3 (which has a ps1 built in) made it network ready and viola.
0xf@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Retroarch keeping the core anyway, probably not the best ps1 core even if it dissappear.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I prefer Beetle PSX (the non-hw version). Very accurate emulation, even compared to Duckstation.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ITT: entitled users who believe that FOSS devs deserve to work themselves to death so they can continue to illegally pirate games while simultaneously complain about licensing law.
it’s disgusting. doesn’t matter if he’s not a nice guy. he’s still right to set limits on what he is willing to support and it’s not Arch(and now all of Linux).
don’t like it? fork it and maintain a new version of it, call it “corkscrew” for the weird shape of ducks pebis.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Explanation: lemmy.world/comment/18532107
tl;dr dude is a bit of a control freak
duchess@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
dude has a PhD and the social skils of the paper it’s printed on
devfuuu@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s insulting to the paper.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Not to break a few illusions of scholastic integrity, but when making a doctoral thesis, you’re not there to make friends. Social skills drop you go up the academic ladder, and it’s designed this way.
I’m not saying I sympathize either, but society doesn’t make it easier for masters to earn the doctorates. A simple “Who was your day, wanna go grab tea, hey let’s unwind at xyz” does resharpen social skills like you won’t believe.
stsquad@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
From the linked comment it sounds like there was a license change in the projects history. I’m surprised the various distro packagers didn’t just collaborate on a renamed fork, unless there are more actively developed emulators still under a FLOSS licence?
zod000@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I believe there is a fork from the last GPLv3 version called SwanStation.
vorpuni@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Someone raised the point you can’t change from GPLv3 if someone else touched the code and they don’t approve the change (unless you rewrite everything yourself). I’m not an expert but considering v3 is to avoid proprietary software more than v2, I would be very amused if this guy gets forced to admit it’s always been GPLv3 and he wasn’t allowed to set a restrictive license.