DuckStation dev dropping support for Linux

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• rowdy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  make free open source software

  people repackage for their distros

  get mad when you receive support requests for outdated packages

  change license to prevent further repackages

  Linux users continue using old version to avoid restrictive license change

  Continue to receive support requests for old packages before license change

  crash out

  Am I doing this right?

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  • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes but be sure to be condescending through it all

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The entitlement is strong. But not with the person who creates an open source emulator in their spare time and gives it away for free, but for those who demand free support.

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• lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Explanation: lemmy.world/comment/18532107

  tl;dr dude is a bit of a control freak

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  • duchess@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    dude has a PhD and the social skils of the paper it’s printed on

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    • devfuuu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s insulting to the paper.

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    • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not to break a few illusions of scholastic integrity, but when making a doctoral thesis, you’re not there to make friends. Social skills drop you go up the academic ladder, and it’s designed this way.

      I’m not saying I sympathize either, but society doesn’t make it easier for masters to earn the doctorates. A simple “Who was your day, wanna go grab tea, hey let’s unwind at xyz” does resharpen social skills like you won’t believe.

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  • stsquad@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    From the linked comment it sounds like there was a license change in the projects history. I’m surprised the various distro packagers didn’t just collaborate on a renamed fork, unless there are more actively developed emulators still under a FLOSS licence?

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    • zod000@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I believe there is a fork from the last GPLv3 version called SwanStation.

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• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Dev doesn’t allow packages of his open source project, people keep creating packages, dev stops support for the OS entirely.

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  • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    jwz & Igara Studio S.A. had the exact same issue with distros maintainers, that they were forced to disallow QA testing and logging for distro related situations that really isn’t their focus.

    Distro makers need to dogfood their own packages, their own support system, and their testing, separate of the original software maker.

    Analogy for commoners: This is like asking a bidet seat maker to fix your entire toilet/bathroom. Like no, get a plumber, workers, and a designer to make your dream toilet. Leave the seat maker alone.

    spoiler

    you still got to clean the toilet every week. Seat makers are not janitors.

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    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My take on a better analogy:

      The bidet maker is pissed because people complain to him that their bidet is leaking or has cracks. He’s annoyed at a distribution/installation company because they fumbled, so he’ll handle installation himself but only to the houses he approves.

      Oh, and the bidets are free and nobody gets paid a cent.

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• Templa@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Two things can be true at the same time:

  • I am grateful you are using your time to develop free and open source software without gaining anything in return.
  • Being pissed at people asking for support for something you didn’t make, do not give you a free pass on being an asshole by changing your license

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• Matty_r@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Sucks that people are so shitty about problems that crop up in FOSS. Just be nice about things and it wouldn’t be a problem, the developer owes you nothing.

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Homie doesnt let you fork the shit to maintain it yourself. He made the problem.

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    • DishonestBirb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just do it anyways, fuck what he wants.

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    • Matty_r@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Doesn’t change how people treat developers. I gather this guy isn’t that great, but people should just move elsewhere instead of being hostile.

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    • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Then it’s not FOSS.

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The dev forbids packaging his emulator via licence. I’m pleading that they’re the asshole.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Because he kept getting entitled support requests for badly packaged versions of his project in some linux distros.

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  • Yttra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Stenzek seems to have a history of being the problem… I don’t know if their words should be taken at face value, or that they’re arguing in good faith at all

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• vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And you can’t even fork it

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    From the looks of it the version most people use (the one that comes in package managers) was already forked awhile ago from the version the dev did allow to be forked, and the official version hasn’t been used in package managers for awhile, because the second version was under a read only license and distros therefore couldn’t package it.

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  • DishonestBirb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sure you can. Absolutely nothing actually prevents it.

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    • lordnikon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The licence is not FOSS its its creative commons no derivatives meaning no forks its a source available licence

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    • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      License doesn’t allow you to do it

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• suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  it is okay for a FOSS project to start with one person.

  but if it is growing and there is still only one persons doing most commits, that is a yellow flag. sign to look at alternatives.

  i am speaking as both user and maintainer.

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He even rewrote parts of the code that weren’t by him in order to remove the GPL license.

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• 0xf@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Retroarch keeping the core anyway, probably not the best ps1 core even if it dissappear.

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  • defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I prefer Beetle PSX (the non-hw version). Very accurate emulation, even compared to Duckstation.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think I’ve been using pcsxr for too long to care.

  Is there anything that makes duckstation worth using over the other psx emulators?

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Apparently it’s really good. I think I have it on my steam deck. But I recently just dusted off a ps3 (which has a ps1 built in) made it network ready and viola.

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ITT: entitled users who believe that FOSS devs deserve to work themselves to death so they can continue to illegally pirate games while simultaneously complain about licensing law.

  it’s disgusting. doesn’t matter if he’s not a nice guy. he’s still right to set limits on what he is willing to support and it’s not Arch(and now all of Linux).

  don’t like it? fork it and maintain a new version of it, call it “corkscrew” for the weird shape of ducks pebis.

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