You could do that, but you could get significantly more performance per dollar by creating a new class of hardware that doesn’t have to be concerned with form factor, efficiency or battery, so it can be larger and more performant, and also does not need to include an OLED display or a controller or a battery…
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jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Or, you know, just connect the Steam Deck to the television…
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
A steam machine with a Radeon 7600 class GPU sold for under $500 would be a surefire hit and it would blow the deck out of the water in terms of performance.
fishos@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They already exist. They’re called mini PCs or NUCs. Just buy one of those and you’re already there. Literally. This whole article and thread is garbage. They already exist. They just aren’t branded Steam.
theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 4 months ago
For the average person, that is impossible. Also, you lose a lot of features compared to SteamOS. Also, the controls are (at least to me) a main selling point and there is no controller on the market that comes close to the capabilities of the Deck.
foggenbooty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I recognize thr average person won’t do this, but you can get the same steam deck experience by installing Bazzite.
Now the controller issue I definitely agree with. They need a second gen Steam Controller pronto!
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah duh. A real gaming PC you’d want to book up to your 4k TV would need to have a GPU, not just an APU. Also, having to install everything yourself kind of defeats the purpose. Do you think the Steam Deck would have been successful if it had shipped with Windows?
fishos@lemmy.world 4 months ago
A lot ship with Linux. And having a full PC you can use is a downside? So you’d rather have a limited box? That’s not even valves philosophy, so I don’t know where you’re getting that BS from.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think the biggest thing would be getting a PC with decent specs for $500. Why would anybody buy a Dell desktop or the like ever again? Like even if you don’t game and need to do office work it’d probably be the best option.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You can almost build something like that for this price. Or you can do it if you buy some second hand stuff. But for an OEM building a few million units it would definitely be doable.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah, but I was thinking more parents buying a console for their kids. Like oh little Jimmy can do his homework on this thing too, great I didn’t have to buy him another computer. Or imagine if Microsoft put windows on Xboxes, every office building would be full of them lol.
4am@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Especially if they’re going to make their profit in increased game sales.
natecox@programming.dev 4 months ago
MiniPCs are surprisingly good at this price point; good enough that I would say for most people’s average use case they would be satisfied.
I’d like to see them get more popular.
Damage@feddit.it 4 months ago
Problem is, any occasional performance issue with Proton on the Deck can be justified with “it’s an underpowered portable”, if it happens on a powerful PC, people aren’t going to be as forgiving.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It would perform as well or better than any equivalent Windows PC. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.
Damage@feddit.it 4 months ago
What’s with the hostility?
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 months ago
What you, @crawancon@lemm.ee and @mipadaitu@lemmy.world are missing is a TV isn’t necessarily a single user item.
Deck hooked to the TV to play a game? Great…now what happens when you leave and someone else wants to play?
The problem gets even more obvious if you use the Deck as an HTPC to stream content. How does anyone watch a show once the deck has gone walkabout?
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The inverse is also true though, someone else is watching, I dunno, “The Crown”, pick up the Steam Deck and walk away. ;)
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I know you are making a funny comment but my Wife would be exceptionally displeased if I did that while she was watching “Outlander”. People who live alone don’t have that concern but for the rest of us a TV and it’s attached streaming box are not single user devices. :)
Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
My TV is 4k. The Steam UI alone is still a laggy mess at 4K. Setting the Deck at 1080p makes the whole thing really blurry. While upscaling games from 720p or 1080p to 4k looks better. Until they changed something about the FSR settings and it now cripples the performance at 4k as soon as you turn it on.
A Steam Machine aiming for Xbox Series S type of performance would be sweet.
natecox@programming.dev 4 months ago
I’ve tried this, and I think it’s worth providing a more powerful console if playing on the tv is your primary use case.
It works fine but it doesn’t really hold up to the 4k 60fps HDR experience that most people are getting used to from the main console makers.
drspod@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
What games are you playing on console where you are actually getting 4k native resolution at 60fps?
David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Racing and Sports games for sure.
drspod@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
What game on what console?
VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I dont even have a 4k TV.
ediculous@feddit.nl 4 months ago
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