Comment on The Plucky Squire recently came out, and used the Steam Deck to represent PC

kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You need WSL to run it on windows /s

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  • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What is WSL? I see it referenced all the time?

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    • Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Windows Sub-System for Linux - a utility that allows you to run Linux Commands (limited in scope) on a Windows Machine

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      • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Since WSL 2, it is a full VM connected through RDP, or at least that is what I learned somewhere.

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      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh right. Okay. Not sure why that acronym didn’t cross my mind.

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Does the /s mean that you don’t need WSL to run it on Windows?

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well, I suppose it works on windows, but I’m not an expert 🤷🏻

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• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  As much as nice it sounds, this is not entirely true. Because Steam Deck is not just a PC and cannot share the same enjoyment and benefits of a regular PC, because its a handheld. I believe the Steam Deck should be handled as its own class of hardware, like a console is and do a PC showcase on its own.

  For a small game that runs easily on the Deck and is mainly played with a gamepad, this is probably fine. But for lot of other games this cannot be said. I love my Steam Deck and my local PC, but they need to be treated separately for effective marketing.

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  • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Add a keyboard, mouse and monitor, which are already required for every other pc, and you can do everything on the steam deck that you can on any other pc. The steamdeck just has the additional functionality of working without those if you so choose.

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    • needanke@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      and you can do everything on the steam deck that you can on any other pc

      Ok, how do I use rsync on the deck then? (/s, but I’d still love to know)

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      • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        1. Turn on
        2. Open desktop mode (in power menu I think)
        3. Open terminal
        4. Type rsync <source> <destination>
        5. Press enter

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Are you not aware of “Desktop mode”? Hold down the power button for a few second, click “switch to desktop mode,” and you’re literally using a fully functioning Linux PC.

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      • sanpo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Just… do it? It’s just a normal Linux underneath.

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  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It plays PC games, runs a PC OS, has a PC DE (KDE Plasma), includes standard PC ports (with a dock that includes even more standard PC ports), has a standard PC uefi bios, uses a PC APU, and has a PC like trackpad along with a virtual keyboard. Also if a game works well with controllers itll work well with Steam Deck (even if it doesn’t it usually works well). Functionally speaking how is this different then a tablet PC with a controller? (In terms of if its a PC)

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Its targeted by developers like a console is, its a specific hardware that developers can optimize for. And the operating system and user interface is optimized for gaming. That’s the Console portion of it. Steam Deck is a PC hardware in handheld form factor and a Console treatment, which developers can target specifically for, unlike other handheld PCs with Windows.

      Steam Deck is not just a PC, and its not just a handheld. Its a console that can be targeted.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Steam Deck is not just a PC, and its not just a handheld.

        Yes. It’s both… And it is fully functioning as either.

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      • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        the operating system and user interface is optimized for gaming

        Most of the “optimizations” are either generic Linux improvements that exist in many distros or are can be easily installed on any PC. Meanwhile the UI is literally just Steam gamepadui, any PC could access it, any PC can launch Steam on boot and set Steam to launch into Steam big picture mode. The only optimizations are just a set of good defaults and software that works well together.

        Its a console that can be targeted

        Yeah because its a popular piece of hardware running amazing software, thats something Windows handhelds dont have. What people dont understand about SteamOS is it isn’t that optimized, thats because Linux is so optimized as an OS that Valve doesn’t need to do much on top of it.

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  • crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just connect it to a monitor and you have a regular pc, I have seen a lot of people use it as one with no issues.

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What are you talking about it’s just a laptop in gamepad form you can hook up PC peripherals and there will be zero difference.

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    • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I wrote a huge argumentative piece to that guy and then snapped out of it and deleted it all. It’s not worth it.

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  • hoanbridgetroll@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I get what you’re saying - some games aren’t fun on steam deck controls, or just run like a dog.

    But, look at it differently - It’s a PC by virtue of the fact you only have to buy it once to use it in both. My 10 year old XPS laptop and my gaming desktop are very different classes of hardware as well, but they’ll both run Plants vs Zombies that I bought once.

    I can’t say that about the stuff I bought on Switch and want to keep playing on Steam Deck.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can also easily connect a mouse and keyboard (and monitor or TV if you want) if the controller doesn’t work well for the game.

      Because it’s literally a PC.

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