It plays PC games, runs a PC OS, has a PC DE (KDE Plasma), includes standard PC ports (with a dock that includes even more standard PC ports), has a standard PC uefi bios, uses a PC APU, and has a PC like trackpad along with a virtual keyboard. Also if a game works well with controllers itll work well with Steam Deck (even if it doesn’t it usually works well). Functionally speaking how is this different then a tablet PC with a controller? (In terms of if its a PC)
Comment on The Plucky Squire recently came out, and used the Steam Deck to represent PC
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 month agoAs much as nice it sounds, this is not entirely true. Because Steam Deck is not just a PC and cannot share the same enjoyment and benefits of a regular PC, because its a handheld. I believe the Steam Deck should be handled as its own class of hardware, like a console is and do a PC showcase on its own.
For a small game that runs easily on the Deck and is mainly played with a gamepad, this is probably fine. But for lot of other games this cannot be said. I love my Steam Deck and my local PC, but they need to be treated separately for effective marketing.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 month ago
Its targeted by developers like a console is, its a specific hardware that developers can optimize for. And the operating system and user interface is optimized for gaming. That’s the Console portion of it. Steam Deck is a PC hardware in handheld form factor and a Console treatment, which developers can target specifically for, unlike other handheld PCs with Windows.
Steam Deck is not just a PC, and its not just a handheld. Its a console that can be targeted.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Steam Deck is not just a PC, and its not just a handheld.
Yes. It’s both… And it is fully functioning as either.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 month ago
I also explained what i told. Its more than just both, its a target. Its really not difficult to understand.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
the operating system and user interface is optimized for gaming
Most of the “optimizations” are either generic Linux improvements that exist in many distros or are can be easily installed on any PC. Meanwhile the UI is literally just Steam gamepadui, any PC could access it, any PC can launch Steam on boot and set Steam to launch into Steam big picture mode. The only optimizations are just a set of good defaults and software that works well together.
Its a console that can be targeted
Yeah because its a popular piece of hardware running amazing software, thats something Windows handhelds dont have. What people dont understand about SteamOS is it isn’t that optimized, thats because Linux is so optimized as an OS that Valve doesn’t need to do much on top of it.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 month ago
There is even an API in Steam that directly targets the Steam Deck. Steam Deck can be programmatically identified by its API, just like any other console. This is a key factor.
We are not speaking about any random hardware configuration or tablet, we are speaking about a device with software and hardware specifically designed, build, tested, targeted and marketed as a single unit. Exactly what a console is. However, I’m not disregarding its roots of PC. What I am saying is, that Steam Deck does not represent PC “very well”; its its own thing, even compared to other handheld PCs. If the Steam is marketed as a PC, then it won’t get the support from the developers.
Steam Deck is its own category, besides general PC. Games need to have different Spec Recommendations for PC and one specific optimized version for Steam Deck. Both are separated.
crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 1 month ago
Just connect it to a monitor and you have a regular pc, I have seen a lot of people use it as one with no issues.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
What are you talking about it’s just a laptop in gamepad form you can hook up PC peripherals and there will be zero difference.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I wrote a huge argumentative piece to that guy and then snapped out of it and deleted it all. It’s not worth it.
hoanbridgetroll@midwest.social 1 month ago
I get what you’re saying - some games aren’t fun on steam deck controls, or just run like a dog.
But, look at it differently - It’s a PC by virtue of the fact you only have to buy it once to use it in both. My 10 year old XPS laptop and my gaming desktop are very different classes of hardware as well, but they’ll both run Plants vs Zombies that I bought once.
I can’t say that about the stuff I bought on Switch and want to keep playing on Steam Deck.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
You can also easily connect a mouse and keyboard (and monitor or TV if you want) if the controller doesn’t work well for the game.
Because it’s literally a PC.
emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Add a keyboard, mouse and monitor, which are already required for every other pc, and you can do everything on the steam deck that you can on any other pc. The steamdeck just has the additional functionality of working without those if you so choose.
needanke@feddit.org 1 month ago
Ok, how do I use rsync on the deck then? (/s, but I’d still love to know)
Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 month ago
rsync <source> <destination>needanke@feddit.org 1 month ago
Wait, its installed by default? I assumed I had to install it, which would not be possible, because its immutable and there is no rsync flatpak (I think).
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Are you not aware of “Desktop mode”? Hold down the power button for a few second, click “switch to desktop mode,” and you’re literally using a fully functioning Linux PC.
sanpo@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Just… do it? It’s just a normal Linux underneath.