Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame

Lemmchen@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  i feel like steam is gonna sell them at a good price even if they are gonna make a loss on them, because gaben is tuff like that

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  • erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They are definitely not selling the Gabe cube at a loss. The steam deck could be sold at a loss, because people will buy steam games for it, but the steam machine is a PC, and there would be nothing stopping, for example, corporations buying thousands as cheap workstations that will never see a single steam purchase.

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    • potustheplant@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The post (and replies) are about the VR headset (steam frame), not the gabecube.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There’s actually a huge thing stopping corporations from buying them in bulk as workstations:

      They’re only sold on Steam, directly by Valve, then shipped to you.

      Just like all other Valve hardware.

      You… need a Steam account.

      And they can very easily just say ‘one per person!’

      People need to stop with this ‘companies will buy them in bulk and fuck everything up!’ line of logic.

      It makes almost 0 sense.

      A company would only be able to do that by setting up a system of fraudulent accounts on Steam, which would violate the TOS individually, and potentially be quite illegal collectively.

      You won’t be able to buy a new Steam Machine, at Valve’s MSRP, at Walmart, or Best Buy, or NewEgg, or MicroCenter.

      You might be able eventually find some on Amazon, or Walmart’s online stores, something like that, but those will be from resellers of dubious sourcing methods, and they will be charging more than MSRP.

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      • Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        A company would only be able to do that by setting up a system of fraudulent accounts on Steam, which would violate the TOS individually, and potentially be quite illegal collectively.

        And a huge hassle just to end up with a bunch of unsupported hardware

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    • cloudwolf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Unless the price is ridiculously low, corporations are not buying thousands of anything without a support contract. Next day repairs/exchnages and priority support are a must when dealing with hardware at scale, and Valve is not going to offer that.

      Dell/Lenovo/HP are already more expensive than consumer-grade hardware from Best Buy unless you are a very large customer. Companies pay for reliability, warranty and support.

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      • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It happened to the Playstation, though not for use as workstations usually.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Most corporations just buy laptops and then the world’s cheapest docking stations. So would have to be cheaper than a mid-tier laptop and I can’t see that being likely.

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      • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yep and once warranty is finished they sell off the hardware allowing me to pick up solid used Thinkpads to run Linux on. Warranty service is too important to corporations.

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    • helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      good point. could they be selling the steam frame at a loss since its more game oriented?

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    • DanWolfstone@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not to point this at you but I am getting a bit tired of hearing people parrot the point that If they’re low cost then corps will buy them in droves.

      Most companies will set up a deal with other companies to buy bulk at low prices, I highly doubt valve will offer that considering the restrictions they put on buying the steam deck to avoid scalpers.

      I’d like to hope the Gabe cube be priced at a reasonable consumer viable price (+ ram tax) with the same 1 per account restriction that they had on the deck

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Blame LTT for that. They’re the ones that put out the initial idea that corporations might buy them thus valve cannot sell them at a loss.

        When I first heard them say that I initially thought “yeah that makes sense”. But after a while of thinking about it, no it doesn’t make any sense at all, I have no idea why he said that.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m fully expecting this to be triple the price of the Quest 3S.

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    • helimopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      they said the frame will be under the price of the valve index. either they mean the headset itself (500$ or so) or everything needed to run the headset (1000 or so)

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The latter.

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• deacon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  At the moment that statement applies to all 3 products.

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