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Microsoft paves the way for Linux gaming success with plan that would kill kernel-level anti-cheat
Submitted 8 months ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
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santo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
cheddar@programming.dev 8 months ago
Same. There are anyway much more games than one can find time to play them.
onnekas@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
This^ The road to Linux gaming has already been paved. It’s just missing one or two exits.
mrfriki@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is the way!
Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
This only gets more effective by the year
Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 months ago
Kernel level anti cheat is still bypassed so why do so many people just accept a literal ring-0 rootkit if it doesn’t even axcomplish its intended goal?
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 8 months ago
Because so many people have no clue. They don’t even know what ring-0 access means.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because people are technologically inept and buy into the propaganda that kernel-level anticheat is more effective than the alternative solutions.
ghurab@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sometimes kernel level anti-cheat is good for the consumer, actually.
I was about to relapse and install league of legends, but then vanguard for league was announced, which immediately cured me <3
barsquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have saved a lot of money by scrolling down and seeing “Denuvo.”
fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I have a close friend who attended this summit and Microsoft aren’t kicking people out of kernel space but expanding the capabilities in user space to minimize the reasons to need to run security components in kernel mode so they can develop and deploy solutions with minimal risk (no security vendor wants that risk when they’re running on business/enterprise machines like CrowdStrike).
Kicking everyone out of the kernel is a long journey and even Apple, who are much further along this path, still haven’t completely closed the door on kernel extensions. It’ll be several Windows version yet before kernel drivers are no longer a thing.
xavier666@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You mean to say that my great-grandson can finally play Destiny 2 on Linux?
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Paving the way for Linux gaming is a bit of a stretch here, but yes, userspacing security in Windows could enable Linux compatibility better.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There was an article not too long ago about how windows 11 was gaining in market share for gamers. But my guess is a lot of them are like me and bought a handheld that can dual boot Bazzite and Windows (because they have games that only windows can play). Most of the games I have are older so no incorporating anti-cheat anything at the kernel level. But I still had to turn off secure boot in order to get Bazzite up and running.
I wonder how long this will continue to be the case once they end support for windows 10 next year.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 months ago
Definitely not “Crowdstrike tarnished their brand so much because no one understands what kernel level is that no one is going to get kernel level access”
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
You can be sure that MS finds a way to either bust it or make it anticompetitive.
kayazere@feddit.nl 8 months ago
The anti-tampering solution sounds like some trusted computing bullshit like on mobile where banking apps will refuse to run if your device has a custom rom or non-locked boot loader. This would be how anti-cheat software could continue to lock out linux.
Petter1@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I bet it is similar to android “mimimi this is sideloaded version, I will not start that, download original version from play (bzw. MS store) store plz” feature
Effects that anti cheat software games only can be sold via MS store, great! /s
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah we’ll see
skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
My concern with this is it will be a UWP feature, or be too complicated for wine devs to ports to Linux. Or be heavily dependent of Windows to the point that the ApIs will give Wine away. Eaither way I don’t expect multiplayer Linux game support anytime soon
x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
You don’t expect it for a handful of games?
Or for all the other games that run perfectly fine on Linux and already have perfect multiplayer?
skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
The games that support kernel level anti cheat and the same ones saying switching to Linux is like moving Canada, also that was an literal quote from the epic games ceo
savvywolf@pawb.social 8 months ago
People seem oddly optimistic about all of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the solution they came up with still wouldn’t work in Linux. I don’t know how exactly they’d do it, but I can imagine some encryption key or hardware nonsense that Linux can’t replicate.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Either way, making all the software developers who insist on messing with the kernel on windows, stop, will be a good thing.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m optimistic about the idea that game developers will stop being allowed to install fucking malware.
I don’t trust Microsoft at all, but you shouldn’t be able to consent to that bullshit in an EULA no one has ever read.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 8 months ago
Hopeful is better than Hopeless.
petrescatraian@libranet.de 8 months ago
@savvywolf I imagine that they would instead force them to use a certain API that wouldn't be so easy to replicate on Linux.
@Fubarberry
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
API calls would still be a lot easier to replicate through wine/proton than completely uncontrolled kernel access.