TikTok is a social media app that tracks an incredible amount of data. A change of location will not change this.
Every bad thing about Tiktok is also true about Twitter, Facebook or Instagram.
"The problem with TikTok is not whether it is based in China or the US. The problem with TikTok is TikTok." - (Tuta blog)
Submitted 7 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to technology@lemmy.zip
https://tuta.com/blog/problem-with-tiktok
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turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
grue@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You’re right. I hope you’re not saying that in order to defend TikTok but rather to support banning Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram too.
0x815@feddit.de 7 months ago
I have to disagree, not every bad thing …
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
A moronic and incorrect take
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Your ignorance won’t stop me from knowing everything about you.
ReallyKinda@kbin.social 7 months ago
You probably couldn’t reasonably sue a chinese company for mis-use
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
True but it’s an order of magnitude worse on Tiktok. All of it.
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
why worse? It’s just exchanging American spies with Chinese spies… Both are bad, but Americans are worse
cloudless@feddit.uk 7 months ago
It definitely matters. It is being use as a propaganda tool.
huginn@feddit.it 7 months ago
Propaganda for what?
0x815@feddit.de 7 months ago
@huginn
One example:
TikTok Facilitates CCP’s Arrest of Uyghurs in China
The Uyghur Times has documented at least 20 individuals who vanished after sharing videos criticizing the Chinese government on TikTok between 2021 and 2023.The International Version of TikTok has a long history of suspending or suppressing users who share content criticizing the Chinese government. That is why you don’t see Uyghur activists on this platform; that is why so many people don’t know what is happening to the Uyghur people.You may not care, but we Uyghurs are clear about one fact: TikTok is the genocidal arm of the Chinese government.
You’ll find a large number of examples on how the CCP censors their web.
Mikufan@ani.social 7 months ago
And that its Chinese.
SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I feel like pointing fingers at China is kinda missing the point that we are not legislating collection of user data because it is also a major source of revenue for non-chinese software companies.
0x815@feddit.de 7 months ago
Yes, but China is strongly using this as a propaganda tool, e.g., by censoring any content that is not aligned with the CCP’s ‘official’ narrative. I know that ‘the West’ does that also once in a while, but by far not to that extent. You can criticize the U.S. or the EU or any government on social media without consequences.
That said, I’d say it is irrelevant whether or not it is a source of revenue, may it be Chinese or non-Chinese companies. I don’t use these tools bc I don’t want to be spied on 24/7. But that’s just my opinion, there is a large audience out there for such media.
Mikufan@ani.social 7 months ago
The fact that data collection isn’t regulated enough is one thing. It being Chinese means its a security issue and propaganda platform.
0x815@feddit.de 7 months ago
Lawmaker Who Led TikTok Ban Bill Joins Private Surveillance Firm
Mike Gallagher pushed the bill to ban TikTok because China can “surveil its users.” Now, he’s resigning and joining an American surveillance firm Palantir.
TwinTusks@bitforged.space 7 months ago
Palantir
great name!
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It will change who gets the data. Who would you rather have your data: US gov, or CCP?
For me its an easy choice; I dont tiktok.
trolololol@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Neither
ninjabard@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So, the only solution is to not use it? Got it.
grue@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No. The only solution is to ban it to stop the idiots from using it, too. The problem cannot be solved individually, only collectively.
rivr@lemmy.world 7 months ago
why i have a feeling that they pick this “hot topic” only to promote themselves in a really lazy way
drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Tuta have been pretty slimy for a few years at this point. I would have moved off of it if they didn’t honor my original subscription price; they’ve changed it a few times now and all the new prices are worse.
rivr@lemmy.world 7 months ago
they’re still slightly better than proton which recently started to promote their premium down the throats. my partner noticed that tuta’s sub changed slightly since the time he paid fo it - he wouldn’t notice otherwise because i had to get it
MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 7 months ago
Tautalogically that is totally tautological.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Everyone saying “it doesn’t matter that TikTok is based in China” is actually just saying that they don’t have any real understanding of how the CCP runs shit in China. It matters very fucking much that the government under which TikTok was created was the CCP.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The vast majority of people using TiKTok have no idea what the CCP even is.
And hey, maybe they could be educated about that!
But that education isn’t going to happen on TikTok under the control of the CCP.
MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 7 months ago
I’d wager that most people are familiar with Communist China.
MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 7 months ago
Meanwhile we accept everything else manufactured in China in our shared ignorance.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
I would avoid Chinese phones, network gear, and other computer hardware as well.