Leak: Valve is making a Steam Controller 2 and a ‘Roy’ for its Deckard

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• Kelo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I really hope the controller will be just a steam deck without the screen. Dual trackpads and 4 grip buttons is the best controller layout I’ve used

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  • Bassman1805@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Dual trackpads but still dual joystick and a real D-pad.

    I really tried to like my steam controller but the trackpads as the main control surface didn’t work that well.

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They worked great for 4x games and even slower paced real time strategy games or grand strategies. And they are an excellent shim for more action oriented games that are built around M+KB and don’t support a gamepad.

      The problem is that this came out at the time when EVERY PC game was rapidly getting gamepad support. And with very few exceptions (Terraria and Stardew come to mind), it was a worse experience to set up your own mess rather than just use the bindings that let you play civ on an xbox controller anyway.

      But yeah. If we can get both this time? That would be perfect AND encourage people to really dig deep on their setups for steam deck games. I know I would use the trackpads and even back buttons more if it wasn’t learning a completely different scheme for a game I also want to play at my desk or in front of my TV.

      That said, I am also very wary of fitting all those controls on a single controller. Most of the mock-ups people make have HORRIBLE ergonomics. But… Valve knocked the Steam Deck out of the park so day one.

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    • DualPad@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I use dual touchpads for games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, Spin Rhythm XD, The Finals, etc.

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  • ramius345@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It would also be cool if the sticks were hall effect or upgradeable to hall effect.

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    • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I doubt they’ll come as hall effect sticks, but hopefully they’ll have the same drop in design that the steam deck does, for easy replacement and upgrades.

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  • renegadespork@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I thought the Steam Deck was essentially the Steam Controller 2, or at least the result of the R&D put into a new Steam Controller.

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  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes that’s exactly what I’m hoping for too. After using it I don’t want to use anything else. It’s not a huge deal for every game but it’s an absolute must have for some.

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    • Kelo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not just games. Using desktop mode in steamos is so seamless and polished, that I wouldn’t be surprised if some people picked one up for Home media controller over some wireless keyboards

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• mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The Steam Deck controls but with better ergonomics. Please.

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  • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I prefer the ergonomics of original SC over SD but SD has better controls. I want the best of both.

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• Mr_Blott@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Leak

  “Advert” is the word btw

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• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I would put this rather on the “Rumor” category than “Leak”. We have no evidence, because this is just an article about someone stating that someone is stating it.

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  • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ive actually considered posting about this before, there’s been several leaks leading up to this suggesting that two new controllers were in development. Basically there are some people who closely monitor files uploaded to steam, and sometimes assets and files are visible publicly for a short time. The guy who’s a source on this has accurately leaked stuff before, and it’s my belief we can trust him on this.

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, but its still rumor. A leak would be some evidence we can confirm. I’m aware of the rumors and talks about controllers and the Deckard. But so far, nothing can be confirmed as a leak.

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• Bubs@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m so excited about the Deckard. I really want it to be good enough to replace my Index.

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  • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I came pretty close to buying an index off marketplace (blegh) but then I snapped myself out of it. I’m really really hoping Deckard offers some innovation over what is currently available in terms of VR, and that it is a mostly open platform.

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• etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Please be true.

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  • vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve got two steam controllers on their last legs. I can’t go back to shitty traditional controllers.

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  • seaQueue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know right, I can’t handle another round of disappointment

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• DualPad@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m the minority that wishes the controller would have the same layout for the touchpads with it being large, circular, concave, and in the same upper positions.

  I use dual touchpads on the Steam Controller to play games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, Spin Rhythm XD, The Finals, etc.

  But, on the Deck I did not find the touchpad good for those games due to the shape, size, and placement so it turned out as being as useful as the dualsense with it becoming more a joystick controller than a touchpad controller I wanted to use in the same way I use the Steam Controller. Been hoping for years for a proper Steam Controller with upgraded gyro and 2 additional grips, but looks like it’ll never happen even if Valve came out with a new controller when it comes to a dual touchpad controller I want to use. Would be more a xbox/sony controller alternative.

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  • ECB@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes! The steam controller was legitimately incredible for first person games. The combination of left joystick and right touchpad was incredible once you got used to it.

    I love my steam deck, but I was really disappointed with the touchpads… they are just too small too really use for much of anything other than menus. As a result, I really only play 2d games, since I hate 2-stick controls…

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    • DualPad@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, I’ve been playing lot of 2d platformers on my Deck or button mashers like the Yakuza collection where I’m less likely to miss touchpads.

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• PunchingWood@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I never understood why Steam didn’t just make a variant of the original Steam controller that just had the classical button layout without touchpads. I liked the touchpad version for some games but it’s really clunky to use for stuff I’m otherwise used to have sticks for. I really like the Steam controller’s grip.

  I would’ve loved the same controller with an Xbox layout or something or even interchangeable parts/layouts. Although that would probably drive up the price a ton.

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  • Fermion@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why would they bother making an xbox layout when they’ve already gone through the effort of making the xbox controllers compatible with games? What advantage would that have over just using an actual xbox controller or one of the numerous generics?

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    • PunchingWood@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same could be said for lots of other party controllers that are essentially the same.

      Like I have a 8Bitdo Ultimate BT controller, it’s essentially an Xbox/Switch controller, but it comes with a charging dock and is also compatible with the Switch. It also has hall effect sticks and motion control (for Switch). I preferred the Steam controller’s grip over the Xbox controller, on top of the Steam controller having back pedal buttons as well. Plus it comes with a dongle, which has to be bought seperately for the Xbox controller unless you use Bluetooth.

      So there are plenty of things that could be done different, ranging from different features to better build quality.

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  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So basically just the Xbox controller?

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  • MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I personally would have loved it if they’d actually carried through with physically swappable components. While the touchpads are awesome for games that don’t have normal gamepad support or require faster turn speeds, they just don’t have the same feel as a physical analog stick for the games that do support it.

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    • DualPad@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Touchpad is great for turns. Example here of 180 turn demo with my Steam Controller. And I use that with gyro to play games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, Spin Rhythm XD, The Finals, etc without aim assist.

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    • TotesIllegit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Honestly, I wanted to ditch the left trackpad for a D-pad and a couple more buttons on the back, but that’s all I really wanted. I found myself playing more FPS titles with the Steam Controller than with K+M because the trackball mouse feature worked very well for quick coarse camera movements and gyro aiming improved my fine camera movements for lining up shots.

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• morgan_423@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Like others, I’d rather see a Steam Deck Controller than an actual Steam Controller 2 that’s heavily based on the original. But they’d probably sell a bazillion of either.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Personally I think a steam controller 2 should have one large touchpad, two thumbsticks, and abxy (also keep the shape and add USB c)

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