Tucked into their FAQ about the Steam Machine release was a mention about making your own Steam Machine by installing steamOS to a computer you already have. AMD only for now.
Wasn’t that always allowed?
Valve Gives The Green Light to Install SteamOS On Desktops To Create Our Own Steam Machines
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/valve-gives-green-light-to-install-steamos-on-desktop/
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Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Allowed but janky, this is probably a more polished installer.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I see, and yes, you needed some technical savvyness (is that a word?) to do this on your own before
TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What’s been janky about it? I have it installed on a custom build since like February, never had any hiccups, besides the same rare issues on my steam deck (some occasional sound issues when switching between desktop and game mode, recently now solved I think). It’s otherwise been a flawless experience. Config is pure AMD : 5800X + 7600 XT 16GB with 16GB RAM. I was just hoping to get a steam controller but that proved harder than expected :(
Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It wasn’t officially supported for a long time even if they never stopped you. No real installer, etc. But now they started adding a lot more driver support even for hardware they aren’t going to use, which you only do if you want to let people use 3rd party hardware
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Awesome, thanks for the info
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
They only had the old SteamOS available for installing to anything but a Steam Deck.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Allowed and available, but not endorsed.
jokro@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Gotta put in on my Steam Deck
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Dude that’d be so sick!
MrSoup@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Have someone managed to jailbreak it?
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
AMD only for now.
AMD only forever unless you want to reinstall nvidia drivers every month, because the cunts will never support linux properly
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The open source Nvidia drivers are coming along nicely I hear.
nuko147@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where did you hear it? The only I read was NVIDIA driver support for the Steam OS, not this year btw, but nothing about open source drivers.
Graphiar@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Tbh not even the fucking Windows drivers work properly either. In all my years of gaming every single time I’ve had an issue with my Nvidia GPU it’s the fucking drivers not working properly. Ranging from wild performance benches in games that only work on one specific driver, but fucks up the rest of my library, to crashes that cause me to force restart.
Once I switched over to AMD with my 580 back in the day, drivers have been absolutely seamless. Fuck that DLSS shit and fuck Nvidia. I just want my $500 GPU to work properly.
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
To work properly, and not catch on fire… Yea
MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
This appears to be the page to pay attention to for actually doing this. help.steampowered.com/en/…/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227
It appears support is not yet there, but is intended to be.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Support started with 3.8 release. It might say steam deck in the file name, but as long as the version is 3.8.xx then it should be good.
Direct Link to download: …steamos.cloud/…/steamdeck-oobe-repair-20260618.1…
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Love it, giving us an easy arch-based gaming distro basically. Now they just gotta give us half-life 3 as well.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
We could always do this, by the way. SteamOS has been available since the release of the Steam Deck. The main drawback is that core updates will wipe a bunch of changes you’ve made to your OS. I got tired of reinstalling AUR and a bunch of other things every month, so I changed distros.
Once that issue goes away, I’ll likely switch back.
SirIglooi@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I dont think thats really an issue and more so a design choice to keep steam os immutable. I doubt that’ll change since it does make it much harder to break the system.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yep. I think its actually pretty ideal for a pure gaming machine that lives under the TV. If I were going to build a machine for that I would go with SteamOS.
jestho@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
On immutable fedora, I can layer packages. Is this not possible on SteamOS?
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
My understanding is SteamOS was lacking hardware support for most devices, and that they’ve been slowly fixing this. It’s been mostly functional for awhile now, but used to be completely broken, and it’s only now that Valve is saying it’s actually ready for most AMD devices.
It’s part of why people had needed to use things like Bazzite/ChimeraOS on other gaming handhelds, because bare SteamOS wouldn’t work. There were things like hardcoded support for just the Van Gogh chipset, hardcoded TDP management that would cause system crashes on different hardware, no support for network devices, etc.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Need to make all changes through ansible, then you just run one job post update :)
Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
What did you switch to? I want to get away from windows and rn my main contender is Bazzite, but i wouldnt mind a non Fedora alternative…
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I like both Mint and Zorin. Once I learned you can make your desktop environment whatever you want, I became less concerned about which specific Ubuntu distro I use, because I just want KDE Plasma. Kubuntu seems like a great option. Bazzite also seems good, but I haven’t tried it yet and I like to tinker every once in a while.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Bazzite is the same way. It’s an immutable OS
SirIglooi@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You can layer packages with rpm-ostree on bazzite tho, which do persist through updates. As far as I know, steam os has no such thing.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve never seen a computer that’s a Radiator. Thank you everyone have a great evening
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Might I interest you in an Analytical Engine?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I prepped for this a long while. Right down to having an AMD CPU and AMD rdna 2 GPU.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Correction: The GPL gives you the green light to install SteamOS on your computer to create your own steam machine. Valve has no say in the matter.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Valve specifically released a new installation image that comes with an installer, has added hardware support for non-deck hardware and discrete graphics cards, and has officially updated their support documents to say that it’s supported on more hardware.
You may have a right to install it before, but that doesn’t mean it would have worked or been a good experience.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah, the content of the article is newsworthy, but the headline annoys me :\
agelord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ahckchually…
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
guilty lol
Takeshidude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When they release steamOS for ARM, I’ll throw a party
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
When the Steam Frame comes out we should get an ARM SteamOS recovery image, but it will probably only be for the Frame hardware. It’s possible that Valve will have prioritized wider hardware support for it though, since that’s something they’ve been actively working on with regular SteamOS.
edfloreshz@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
They should at least allow us to select the hard drive where we want to install the system. It’s completely hostile to multi-drive systems.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The brand new SteamOS image apparently does have an installer, but I’m not sure what installation options it has since I haven’t tried it.
Hopefully it does support drives/partitions better than the previous recovery image did.
edfloreshz@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I will try it out today and let you know
nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Is valve ‘allowing’ us to install linux on any pc, or are we only allowed to install it on a potato like valve did?
somegeek@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I aspire to be like valve
nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
rich.
VAK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Should i put this in my laptop? It’s on Ubuntu lts right now and standby is janky.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Try Bazzite
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
For a full desktop experience, something like Bazzite will be better.
That said standby/sleep issues can be nasty to track down, hopefully swapping distros will fix it, but be prepared to maybe have to chase it down. I’m in the middle of having to fix an issue with some ASIX usb network drivers on my desktop, where a recent update started causing loss of network and other issues after sleep.
VAK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thanks, will try it out. Damn, having driver issues sounds horrible. Mine just refuses to wake up or go to sleep sometimes. Or frequently takes an oddly long time.
poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
They should pay someone to finalize the jailbreak of the PS5, because SteamOS should run great on it if you have a hacked console.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We shouldn’t need a jailbreak.
If Apple has to allow 3rd party stores, why not Sony?
HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Apple only allows 3rd party stores in the EU*
de_lancre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There were a case back in the days of PS3, where sony removed ability to run linux from new versions of console. They were sued and lost, but still decided to pay the fine, rather than returning functionality.
The main issue as I see it, is that they sell consoles as cheap as possible (previously they even sold them at a loss) and then return such investment by selling you games and subscription. By opening ability to install linux, not only they will loss profit from upper mentioned part on existing devices, but there a chance people will start buying PS5 to use as a regular desktop or general server or whatever, due to being simply cheapest prebuild option available for such specs. Same point was rised by Valve actually, they too was afraid that if they start selling gabebox at loss, people will buy them for anything, but playing games.
dmalteseknight@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I mean their tablets/phones are still locked to ios.
dil@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
This would make me use it again, it’s just gathering dust since I have a gaming laptop (bought on sale years ago, much better than the ps5), but mostly just use blender and watch tv, would be sick if it made it so I can play simracing games on it with my moza wheel because I never want to close out of my projects on my laptop.
It’d be nice to use it as a homeserver too, just leave it connected to the router and throw some selfhosted apps on there or whatever. Be so much more useful as another linux pc now that I don’t really game and if I do it’s never an exclusive. Just don’t care for linear single player story games.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If your firmware is old enough you can jailbreak it and run steamos already
cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I still get use of mine through my steam deck using Chiaki4Deck remote play, I had a big PS digital library built up and it’s the easiest way for me to access it with minimal setup. I’m not buying Skyrim again, I refuse
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Isn’t this what multiple workspace is for? Or is that only KDE
jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
just use bazzite and live in the future
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Well actually no, because consoles tend to have very divergent, oddball architecture, compared to x86_64, where it tends to be fairly to extremely difficult to basically reverse engineer the drivers… because the normal drivers are propietary.
Instead, they seem to have been collaborating with AMD and basically some open source hackers to get FSR4 working on RDNA 3 GPUs… 7000 series AMD GPUs, the Steam Machine, etc.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
You can run steamos on a jailbroken ps5 already. You need to be on a fairly old firmware though
noxypaws@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series are all x86_64, though, unless I’m misunderstanding?
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
FSR4 on RDNA3 is meh. Image quality is better, but performance is underwhelming. You have to go down from quality to balanced preset to get same gains as with FSR3