I’ve never used the first one but always heard good things about it so looking forward to the second one
Steam Controller
Submitted 11 hours ago by azdle@news.idlestate.org to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller
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julysfire@lemmy.world 24 minutes ago
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
Magnetic hall-effect thumb sticks
SEE NINTENDO?! IT’S NOT THAT HARD!!
BunScientist@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
TMR, not Hall Effect
Joeffect@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I really liked my hall effect keyboard until a few keys decided to start triggering by themselves making the keyboard unusable
maccentric@sh.itjust.works 46 minutes ago
Is that common with that technology?
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
So fucking hyped for this thing. Hope the price is good.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
As a big fan of the Steam Deck, something I want to emphasize here is that even if you don’t want the joysticks or the touchpads on the Steam Controller and wish they had picked one or the other, this kind of setup means the controller has essentially the same layout as the Steam Deck which is HUGE for ease of finding custom control schemes already uploaded by the community for complex games.
I prefer joysticks+gyro over touchpads and so for me the touchpads might seem superfluous, but I heavily use them for virtual menus in all of my control schemes I make for complex games with lots of controls and inputs. The nice thing is that even though I am in the minority of people in that I prefer joysticks + gyro to touchpad for aiming, because the Steam Deck and Steam Controller both have two touchpads and two joysticks, somebody who is touchpad centric can use a control scheme I make pretty much right out of the box just by flip flopping the touchpad and joystick bindings so the virtual menus live on the joysticks instead.
I think this will be one of the subtle things people look back on and credit the Steam Deck and now new Steam Controller for having, it might seem silly and extraneous to have both touchpads and joysticks but it opens up a very wide range of capability and also makes it easier for touchpad and joystck focused players to share custom keybinding schemes with each other.
jared@mander.xyz 11 hours ago
I thought I’d use the touch pads more but gyro is the first thing i set up in most games.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
This is wild to me. Holding my arms perfectly still is practically impossible for me. The idea of a game using my pose and unconscious arm movements as input is positively gameplay-wrecking.
thurstylark@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
Yeah, this is something that I’ve been wanting for a while now too. I flip flop between my steam deck and a steam-machine-like desktop pc with an original steam controller for a while now, and not having my control mappings translate from one to another has been annoying (but in an understandable way). This is gonna be sweeeeeet.
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
You say that because you prefer joysticks, but imagine using touchpad for camera movements and then going for buttons. Hella uncomfortable, something that was a plus in the old steam controller. Basically a downgrade.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
I think the easy solution here is release an identical controller except switch the location of the touchpad and joysticks. I think this would also be good for people with all different kinds of hand shapes as someone who likes joysticks but has small hands might prefer the same controller as someone who has large hands and prefers touchpads and equal and opposite for a second version with the touchpads on top.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
I’m so thrilled for a new steam controller. I was a huge fan of the original, I just wish it were built Better. I hope the new one is built well, I’m planning to purchase one as I think it will be a good controller for my flight sims
Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
I think at this point Valve has a lot more experience with hardware/handheld design. My steamdeck is more than rigid enough, and this at least looks like a steamdeck, without the screen
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
I certainly hope so, the index was a promising piece of kit, never got the deck because I shouldn’t have access to my escapism simulators on mobile.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Hold up, Steam Frame? New Valve VR hardware??
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 minutes ago
Whole gaming set, in fact. Steam Machnes are finally coming! Checking it, seems that it is going to be a powerhouse that will blow up console market.
Lojcs@piefed.social 11 hours ago
That looks uncomfortable to hold ngl.
Steam Frame is a PC, and runs SteamOS powered by a Snapdragon® 8 Series Processor.
I’m more excited about this tbh. It’ll be quite something if Valve ends up solving the firmware problems of Linux on snapdragon powered phones.
nafzib@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It’s funny, I was thinking the opposite. Lol. The design reminds me of the Dreamcast controller. I remember the first time I held a Dreamcast controller and how insanely comfortable it felt compared to NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and Playstation. Granted, modern PlayStation and XBox controllers are also much more comfortable than all of those too, so the Dreamcast one might be uncomfortable by modern standards, but I don’t know since I haven’t held one in 25 years.
I’m hoping this new Steam Controller is as comfortable as I remember the Dreamcast controller being.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Steam Frame is their new VR headset (not an Index successor, more a Quest competitor).
Steam Machine is their pc.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Yeah, but they said the frame is a complete pc as well
Lojcs@piefed.social 11 hours ago
I’m quoting their post
woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Steam Frame is their new VR headset
And Valve literally say on the Steam Frame website that it has a desktop mode running Plasma, just running on an ARM processor instead of x86, and can be used as stand alone PC.
Not sure I wanna blow battery charge on editing spreadsheets in LibreOffice in VR but it’ll be possible.
morgan_423@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I’m not worried. Valve absolutely nailed the Deck ergonomics. They knew what they had to do here.
SatyrSack@quokk.au 8 hours ago
Yeah, people had said the same thing about the Steam Deck’s face layout, but everyone who has actually used one loves the ergonomics.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
It’s the all-time great PS controller, except I can’t actually hold the bottom protrusions in my hands.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
It says it’s a zen 4 custom AMD chip?
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
As someone who was an absolutely massive fan of the original Steam Controller (in fact I still have two of them) I absolutely love these. Yes I know they’re clearly a different design but like last time they seem absolutely perfect for my larger hands. The touchpads seem to be less of a primary focus but honestly im just happy that they included them at all especially two of them. Also USB C plus rechargeable battery and four back buttons instead of two, this is absolutely everything I could have hoped for and then some.
I really hope that with the release of this sc-controller either starts being maintained or somebody makes a fork of it that is (standalone original steam controller/steam deck/steaminput driver)
TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Touchpads on the Deck are really great for on screen menus for things like ability bars and whatnot.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Thank you for making the analog stick aligned like sensible human hands are. Fucking can’t stand the offset sticks on the Xbox.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 9 hours ago
Thank you for making the analog stick aligned like sensible human hands are. Fucking can’t stand the offset sticks on the Xbox.
I understand the frustration, but personally I’ve always preferred the Xbox/Nintendo stick layout over the PlayStation one, personally. For many games, my thumbs are primarily on left thumb stick and face buttons. Obviously anything with camera controls is different, but the offset has never bothered me as much as extending both thumbs down to the sticks like on PlayStation, which sit where they are as a relic of the DualShock introducing analog sticks to an existing controller. (Though I’ll admit the PlayStation setup doesn’t bother me that much, it’s just slightly less comfortable in my opinion.)
The Steam Deck work fine for me because both sticks are higher up, like where the left stick on Xbox/Nintendo falls, rather than below the D-Pad and face buttons like on PlayStation. With this one being somewhere in between, I think I’ll like it just fine. I’m excited to get my hands on one to find out.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
My issue on PlayStation controllers is my thumbs hit each other If both sticks are inward, for example moving right while turning left.
I don’t have large hands so I don’t understand how it’s not a more widespread reported issue. Xbox style controllers completely solves this and things like my deck of course its on opposite sides of the screen
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I prefer the same PS layout, but some other people complain about the left stick not being under the ‘default’ thumb position, and thus prefer Xbox controllers.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
But this isn’t the first Steam Controller, is it? The first one (and also the first Steam Machine) was released on 2015.
astreus@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
I can’t find a reference to first - where did you see it?
You’re right, of course. I still love my Steam Controller (and Steam Link) after all this time.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Does the computer have to be powered on in order for the puck to charge the controller?
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Some computers have special USB ports that stay powered even when the computer itself is off. Guess you’ll have to see if yours has one or if it’s an option you can turn in the BIOS or something.
vonbaronhans@midwest.social 4 hours ago
Probably?
stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
AHHHHHHHH I love my steam controller. I love this upgrade to the Steam Link and the Steam Controller. I am definitely going to try and get this and the Steam Machine. I hope the pricing is doable.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
Stop trying to make touchpads happen. It’s not going to happen.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 minutes ago
I dont use my Steam Controller as often, but I admit that this way of making touchpad is the only way. It actually works!
Noja@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
This is a PC game controller, and for some PC games, mouse input is required.
Burghler@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
It already happened on the SD noob
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Get a Xbox controller then. What’s the point of them releasing their own controller hardware if it does nothing new compared to the competition?
Besides the Steam Deck proves it has already “happened”.Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
My partner has an original steam controller. The touch pads are honestly pretty nice for computer navigation when you’re laying on the couch. It is a horrible option for gaming though.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Did they try to make it look this ugly?
0ops@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
Were you planning on fucking it? If so and if you can over your biases I’m inviting you over to my steamy controller orgy as soon as these puppies drop. We’ll find out exactly what these touchpads are capable of
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
Wooo. Was worried when the icon didn’t have “gamepad + touchpads” but the “ai generated render for legal purposes” did.
Time will tell on the ergonomics. But Valve know their shit and the Steam Deck is genuinely pleasant to use so I assume the size and angle should mean the d-pad and face buttons are still fully usable. Rather than the mess of a switch controller where only the tiniest of hands can use them without cramping.
Currently leaning “three steam controllers, maybe a steam frame when we know more” since I already have an HTPC under my TV.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 11 hours ago
It really looks like that render, amazing.
SatyrSack@quokk.au 10 hours ago
I use it as a scroll wheel on my Steam Deck often. Scroll with the left, point with the right.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Some people use left-handed controller layouts.
LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
You can set it as a radial menu for various inputs. Quick save, quick load, map, inventory, decapitation finisher, etc.
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 10 hours ago
I often go through the effort of mapping menus, macros, etc yo the left trackpad. It's especially good for PC games with lots of binds.
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 7 hours ago
To scroll in menus or desktop, sometimes virtual menus for games requiring more buttons
woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Question, who uses the left trackpad and what for?
Every RetroDECK user
VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 5 hours ago
I really don’t like the solid piece ballpin design for direction buttons. Playstation does 4 button and it’s just a better design. It works great for any game but most importantly it doesn’t straight up suck for fighting games.
embed_me@programming.dev 18 minutes ago
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