Steam Controller

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Magnetic hall-effect thumb sticks

  SEE NINTENDO?! IT’S NOT THAT HARD!!

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  • BunScientist@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TMR, not Hall Effect

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    • entwine@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even better

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  • Joeffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I really liked my hall effect keyboard until a few keys decided to start triggering by themselves making the keyboard unusable

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    • maccentric@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is that common with that technology?

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• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As a big fan of the Steam Deck, something I want to emphasize here is that even if you don’t want the joysticks or the touchpads on the Steam Controller and wish they had picked one or the other, this kind of setup means the controller has essentially the same layout as the Steam Deck which is HUGE for ease of finding custom control schemes already uploaded by the community for complex games.

  I prefer joysticks+gyro over touchpads and so for me the touchpads might seem superfluous, but I heavily use them for virtual menus in all of my control schemes I make for complex games with lots of controls and inputs. The nice thing is that even though I am in the minority of people in that I prefer joysticks + gyro to touchpad for aiming, because the Steam Deck and Steam Controller both have two touchpads and two joysticks, somebody who is touchpad centric can use a control scheme I make pretty much right out of the box just by flip flopping the touchpad and joystick bindings so the virtual menus live on the joysticks instead.

  I think this will be one of the subtle things people look back on and credit the Steam Deck and now new Steam Controller for having, it might seem silly and extraneous to have both touchpads and joysticks but it opens up a very wide range of capability and also makes it easier for touchpad and joystck focused players to share custom keybinding schemes with each other.

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  • jared@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought I’d use the touch pads more but gyro is the first thing i set up in most games.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is wild to me. Holding my arms perfectly still is practically impossible for me. The idea of a game using my pose and unconscious arm movements as input is positively gameplay-wrecking.

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  • thurstylark@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, this is something that I’ve been wanting for a while now too. I flip flop between my steam deck and a steam-machine-like desktop pc with an original steam controller for a while now, and not having my control mappings translate from one to another has been annoying (but in an understandable way). This is gonna be sweeeeeet.

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  • semperverus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who the fuck is complaining about having both? Thats such an insane take.

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  • fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You say that because you prefer joysticks, but imagine using touchpad for camera movements and then going for buttons. Hella uncomfortable, something that was a plus in the old steam controller. Basically a downgrade.

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think the easy solution here is release an identical controller except switch the location of the touchpad and joysticks. I think this would also be good for people with all different kinds of hand shapes as someone who likes joysticks but has small hands might prefer the same controller as someone who has large hands and prefers touchpads and equal and opposite for a second version with the touchpads on top.

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• BootLoop@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hold up, Steam Frame? New Valve VR hardware??

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  • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Whole gaming set, in fact. Steam Machnes are finally coming! Checking it, seems that it is going to be a powerhouse that will blow up console market.

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  • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AND it’ll be a self-contained headset. Want to play Beat Saber? Just put it on and hit the power button, no computer needed.

    Want to play Alyx with an actually decent framerate? Just power on your main gaming computer and plug in the wireless dongle, and you can leverage the beefier GPU.

    I’m excited for it.

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    • hikaru755@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and plug in the wireless dongle

      Depending on your setup, not even that. It sounds like if your wifi hardware is good enough, you’ll be able to play over that as well, eliminating even the line of sight requirement between PC and headset

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• Lojcs@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That looks uncomfortable to hold ngl.

  Steam Frame is a PC, and runs SteamOS powered by a Snapdragon® 8 Series Processor.

  I’m more excited about this tbh. It’ll be quite something if Valve ends up solving the firmware problems of Linux on snapdragon powered phones.

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  • nafzib@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s funny, I was thinking the opposite. Lol. The design reminds me of the Dreamcast controller. I remember the first time I held a Dreamcast controller and how insanely comfortable it felt compared to NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and Playstation. Granted, modern PlayStation and XBox controllers are also much more comfortable than all of those too, so the Dreamcast one might be uncomfortable by modern standards, but I don’t know since I haven’t held one in 25 years.

    I’m hoping this new Steam Controller is as comfortable as I remember the Dreamcast controller being.

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Steam Frame is their new VR headset (not an Index successor, more a Quest competitor).

    Steam Machine is their pc.

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    • Protoknuckles@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but they said the frame is a complete pc as well

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    • Lojcs@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m quoting their post

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Steam Frame is their new VR headset

      And Valve literally say on the Steam Frame website that it has a desktop mode running Plasma, just running on an ARM processor instead of x86, and can be used as stand alone PC.

      Not sure I wanna blow battery charge on editing spreadsheets in LibreOffice in VR but it’ll be possible.

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  • morgan_423@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not worried. Valve absolutely nailed the Deck ergonomics. They knew what they had to do here.

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    • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, people had said the same thing about the Steam Deck’s face layout, but everyone who has actually used one loves the ergonomics.

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  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought the same thing about the steam deck and it turned out to be entirely fine.
    This is basically cutting the screen out of a steamdeck so I’m pretty excited for a good controller.

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  • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the all-time great PS controller, except I can’t actually hold the bottom protrusions in my hands.

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    • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is your complaint that your fingers do not wrap entirely around the grips or something? It looks very natural to hold to me. Like an even more ergonomic Steam Deck.

      https://clan.fastly.steamstatic.com/images/clan/45479024/1ab321a5b909c722f49d45554decb171.webm

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  • Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It says it’s a zen 4 custom AMD chip?

    store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine?l=englis…

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• ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m so thrilled for a new steam controller. I was a huge fan of the original, I just wish it were built Better. I hope the new one is built well, I’m planning to purchase one as I think it will be a good controller for my flight sims

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  • Sasquatch@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think at this point Valve has a lot more experience with hardware/handheld design. My steamdeck is more than rigid enough, and this at least looks like a steamdeck, without the screen

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    • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I certainly hope so, the index was a promising piece of kit, never got the deck because I shouldn’t have access to my escapism simulators on mobile.

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• TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Touchpads on the Deck are really great for on screen menus for things like ability bars and whatnot.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As someone who was an absolutely massive fan of the original Steam Controller (in fact I still have two of them) I absolutely love these. Yes I know they’re clearly a different design but like last time they seem absolutely perfect for my larger hands. The touchpads seem to be less of a primary focus but honestly im just happy that they included them at all especially two of them. Also USB C plus rechargeable battery and four back buttons instead of two, this is absolutely everything I could have hoped for and then some.

  I really hope that with the release of this sc-controller either starts being maintained or somebody makes a fork of it that is (standalone original steam controller/steam deck/steaminput driver)

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• Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But this isn’t the first Steam Controller, is it? The first one (and also the first Steam Machine) was released on 2015.

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  • astreus@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t find a reference to first - where did you see it?

    You’re right, of course. I still love my Steam Controller (and Steam Link) after all this time.

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s no prefix in this second one, so it implies it is the first.

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• BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thank you for making the analog stick aligned like sensible human hands are. Fucking can’t stand the offset sticks on the Xbox.

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  • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thank you for making the analog stick aligned like sensible human hands are. Fucking can’t stand the offset sticks on the Xbox.

    I understand the frustration, but personally I’ve always preferred the Xbox/Nintendo stick layout over the PlayStation one, personally. For many games, my thumbs are primarily on left thumb stick and face buttons. Obviously anything with camera controls is different, but the offset has never bothered me as much as extending both thumbs down to the sticks like on PlayStation, which sit where they are as a relic of the DualShock introducing analog sticks to an existing controller. (Though I’ll admit the PlayStation setup doesn’t bother me that much, it’s just slightly less comfortable in my opinion.)

    The Steam Deck work fine for me because both sticks are higher up, like where the left stick on Xbox/Nintendo falls, rather than below the D-Pad and face buttons like on PlayStation. With this one being somewhere in between, I think I’ll like it just fine. I’m excited to get my hands on one to find out.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My issue on PlayStation controllers is my thumbs hit each other If both sticks are inward, for example moving right while turning left.

      I don’t have large hands so I don’t understand how it’s not a more widespread reported issue. Xbox style controllers completely solves this and things like my deck of course its on opposite sides of the screen

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  • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I prefer the same PS layout, but some other people complain about the left stick not being under the ‘default’ thumb position, and thus prefer Xbox controllers.

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So fucking hyped for this thing. Hope the price is good.

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• network_switch@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I still have the original in perfect condition. This looks like a complete improvement to me

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  • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have four of them, and I agree completely.

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  • nfreak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve got 2 sitting around, never use it but it’s a neat gimmick and I know a lot of folks still swear by this thing. I love how all 3 of these new things are just major upgrades to hardware from like 2016ish

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    • network_switch@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve barely used mine too. Pretty sure I bought it the first few months they were available and never got used to the left touchpad. Feels cool. Maybe if it was left stick and right touch pad, I would use it

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• stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AHHHHHHHH I love my steam controller. I love this upgrade to the Steam Link and the Steam Controller. I am definitely going to try and get this and the Steam Machine. I hope the pricing is doable.

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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The real question is “does it have a way to wake a steamdeck up from sleep”

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  • windpunch@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Apparently the OLED model can already do it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNiENNEvkP

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  • tehmics@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sure, as long is you’re not a steam deck LCD owner. I just set mine to not sleep when docked

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    • BigPotato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The LCD was able to be woken from sleep by any Bluetooth controller… Though today I saw there’s an update that re-disabled this function. So I didn’t apply it.

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• entwine@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sony added a screen to their controller to create a handheld, whereas Valve removed the screen from their handheld to create a controller.

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• MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I actually love the touchpads, but it weird that I’m thinking about this more in the context of a media center PC than actually playing games? I definitely wouldn’t use this for all or most games unless the form factor was really good.

  Because, trying to operate Desktop Mode docked on Steam Deck with a controller is…painful, and this controller would be perfect for jumping into a web browser for streaming sites that don’t have Kodi add-ons (Kanopy and Patreon are two that come to mind).

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  • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The original Steam Controller has become my go-to HTPC controller any time I have a PC hooked up to a TV. It’s great.

    This is a straight-up improvement. As long as the D-pad is good, it’s going to become my #1 way to interact with any computer that I’m not sitting at a keyboard for.

    Even if the D-pad isn’t good, I might just hack it apart and put microswitches in it.

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  • entwine@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have Stremio+Torrentio set up on my deck, and use a PS5 controller for its trackpad since Stremio is very difficult to navigate with a controller. Still, the PS5 controller sucks in a lot of ways and I’d love to upgrade to this!

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  • Joelk111@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think this will also be great for couch gaming with games that weren’t intended to be used with a controller, much like the SteamDeck. The track pads open up so much flexibility.

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• MolochAlter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope the d-pad is better than the steamdeck one, other than that I’m looking forward to it.

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  • Vupware@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s wrong with the steam deck one? Too mushy for your tastes? I’ve never had issues with it.

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    • MolochAlter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Way too mushy, can’t realistically play fighting games with it, and i much prefer d-pad to analog for those.

      So far no controller has beaten the XBOne and later style of dpad with clicky switches underneath, for me.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They were talking about “magnetic joysticks” so they’re hall effect?

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    • Flipper@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No TMR.

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    • MolochAlter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The joysticks are fine, nice that they’re upgrading them. I want the d-pad to be clicky though. There are kits for the deck but I don’t care enough about this to mess with the electronics, I’d rather it be done by pros.

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• ook@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It really looks like that render, amazing.

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  • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I use it as a scroll wheel on my Steam Deck often. Scroll with the left, point with the right.

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  • uninvitedguest@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I often go through the effort of mapping menus, macros, etc yo the left trackpad. It's especially good for PC games with lots of binds.

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  • LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can set it as a radial menu for various inputs. Quick save, quick load, map, inventory, decapitation finisher, etc.

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  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To scroll in menus or desktop, sometimes virtual menus for games requiring more buttons

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wooo. Was worried when the icon didn’t have “gamepad + touchpads” but the “ai generated render for legal purposes” did.

  Time will tell on the ergonomics. But Valve know their shit and the Steam Deck is genuinely pleasant to use so I assume the size and angle should mean the d-pad and face buttons are still fully usable. Rather than the mess of a switch controller where only the tiniest of hands can use them without cramping.

  Currently leaning “three steam controllers, maybe a steam frame when we know more” since I already have an HTPC under my TV.

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• AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does the computer have to be powered on in order for the puck to charge the controller?

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stop trying to make touchpads happen. It’s not going to happen.

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• M137@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My only worry is the ergonomics of it. They had to cram so much that it looks like the sticks and buttons are too far up while the track pads are too far down. I haven’t used a steam deck, but it does look more comfortable than this controller does. I hope it doesn’t end up with that feeling of nothing being in a really comfortable place (except the triggers and bumpers).

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• mang0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The video of two people playing the steam deck with two steam controllers in a fast food joint. Completely natural scenario! Just casually bringing your steam deck and two steam controllers to a fast food joint. Feels like they want to copy the nintendo switch advertisements, but it’s not comparable at all since the switch is smaller and has the joycons which you can use as make-do controllers for e.g. public places.

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• Chais@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I kept wondering what the shape reminded me of.
  It’s the Absolute Batman logo.

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• mika_mika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did they try to make it look this ugly?

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• embed_me@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  C H O N K

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• VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I really don’t like the solid piece ballpin design for direction buttons. Playstation does 4 button and it’s just a better design. It works great for any game but most importantly it doesn’t straight up suck for fighting games.

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• julysfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve never used the first one but always heard good things about it so looking forward to the second one

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