I’d rather have SteamOS officially support more devices including desktop. Good on Valve for giving people options though.
Windows is Now Officially Supported on OLED Steam Deck
Submitted 9 months ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/windows-is-now-supported-on-oled-steam-deck/
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Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Eww…
soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
I would rather trust GamingOnLinux here:
While it is not in any way officially supported by Valve, they have now released Windows drivers for the newer Steam Deck OLED model.
(emphasis mine)
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Yeah, that is a good point to make.
Main reason I linked the steamdeckhq coverage is because they covered it last night, where gamingonlinux didn’t have any coverage of it until a few hours ago.
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Blech! Why would somebody sully such a wonderful device with a piss patty OS?
Reawake9179@lemmy.kde.social 9 months ago
I could imagine that games with invasive anti cheats are a reason.
As someone who played a couple, i just stopped playing them.
nobody158@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Cool but also meh, I really like steams and have had 0 issues getting games to play.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
It’s a great option for people who wants to play those games where the anti cheat system doesn’t support Linux
YourPrivatHater@ani.social 9 months ago
The assholes with that anticheat need to be pressured to do Linux support properly, not people that run after them!
PrinzKasper@feddit.org 9 months ago
Also great for people who want to take advantage of gamepass.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 9 months ago
Fair
x00z@lemmy.world 9 months ago
We should just stop supporting those games.
thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Good news, Lemmy! You will no longer be forced by big tech corporations to run uh… [checks notes] a version of Linux on your Steam Deck anymore!
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 months ago
I’ve used the ASUS ROG Ally and I do not recommend running Windows on anything, let along a handheld. Don’t tarnish your Steam Deck with this!
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I fully agree, but the Deck should be less painful to run windows on thanks to the track pad.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 months ago
The trackpad is amazing on the Deck.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 months ago
Meh.
MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 months ago
Uhhh…well. that’s…um. sure. Someone could do that.
Stampela@startrek.website 9 months ago
And then there’s me, who got a new laptop a couple of days ago after looking into things, and the pre installed Windows worked perfectly to test the hardware worked fine… before being replaced by Linux.
recursive_recursion@programming.dev 9 months ago
who would use Windows when Linux just works in addition to the continued enshitification of Windows?
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 months ago
The only reason to use Windows over Linux is compatibility with certain games (or even applications). Also the price of the device is pretty low. That means people who are interested into handheld PCs who want to use it as a sort of laptop for cheap and don’t care about Linux, can still install Windows on it. I’m not recommending it, but I’m glad people have this option and Valve is not actively trying to stop people (unlike other companies).
embed_me@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah I’m sure they have their reasons but if it were up to me I would never allocate resources for that.
“Let it rot and fester somewhere else”
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Perhaps it’s due to the games I play not being online multiplayer for the most part, but I’ve yet to encounter a game that I couldn’t get to work on Linux, with ~99% requiring absolutely no effort (besides clicking a drop down menu).
And this includes games that Steam has labeled “unsupported” (not even just “unverified”).
At risk of being that annoying, “but have you tried lately?” guy but… Have you? Because it’s pretty wild.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Some games have security software that requires Windows. Destiny 2 for example.
rikudou@lemmings.world 9 months ago
Well, at least for me the solution is simple: don’t buy those games.
swag_money@lemmy.world 9 months ago
ew
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
No thanks
9point6@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Good to have the option, but probably only worth it if you play anti cheat infested games or subscribe to game pass.
icedterminal@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is definitely meant to make it less painful for the players of those games.
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 9 months ago
What if I told you, you can pay money for spyware
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Wow! This is worthless!
YourPrivatHater@ani.social 9 months ago
Fuck that.
Beaver@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Geez why are some people so ready to install malware.
averyminya@beehaw.org 9 months ago
If you can get Rocksmith 2014 running without ear piercing screeching or extreme audio latency then by all means.
Until then, it’s a good thing people have more options, even if it’s not a great one.
Luci@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
So. Many. Ads. Omg
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
“I see youre trying to shutdown your computer. Would you like to buy more OneDrive storage?”
Mwa@thelemmy.club 9 months ago
No thanks 🤮
tombruzzo@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Valve are working on getting SteamOS to work on the ROG Ally X so maybe they’re doing this to help get SteamOS to work on windows first handhelds and make it work better across the 3rd party handheld landscape.
Like you’ve got to take two steps back to take a step forward
nous@programming.dev 9 months ago
I don’t see why this would help. More likely there are two different teams/people working on either side separately from each other. I bet the windows work involves a lot more work on Microsoft’s or the chip manufacturer’s side than valves.
LexGear@mastodon.gamedev.place 9 months ago
@Fubarberry Why thou?
jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Some games have security software that requires Windows. Destiny 2 for example.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.
The standard Steam Deck Windows drivers have been out for ages, I have a Win11 external SSD and it works fine.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Weird that the drivers are that dramatically different for the OLED version.
The WiFi and BT modules are completely different (the OLED’s product page says this since the announcement), hence new drivers required.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 months ago
It’s a bit late. The original Steam Deck had drivers for Windows too. But is this really “official support”? I mean Valve gives no guarantees that Windows will work fine. Valve gives the drivers away, so people can do whatever they want, but makes no promise and do not support it officially on their website. So I’m a bit confused by the terminology. Maybe its still too early in the morning…
riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
So now you can play fortnite on the steam deck. I like to think valve did this just to mess with epic.
Also… Photoshop I guess?
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m actually shocked and disappointed by this. Why valve? You made a sick operating system. Dedicated countless hours to development on Linux. All this to get away from the Microsoft monopoly. Now, you’re dedicating more hours to the support of Windows? Will this be installed on the Steam Decks by default? What is your plan?
offspec@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s literally just drivers that enable user choice. Steam OS is great and nobody reasonable is switching, but for those that do it’s good that they have support for the hardware.
coronach@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
User choice is great and all but it comes at a cost. They could be using the engineering power and time to work more on steamos
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Anecdotally: I worked from home today, my primary laptop is Linux mint. Helldivers 2 wouldn’t start, seems an update broke the settings I had. I tried a couple generic fixes through terminal and started getting huffy because everything would be easier if I just used windows. Non of this would be happening if I just took the blue pill…about 30 minutes in I turned off steam sync for saved games and suddenly it all worked again.
Moral of the story: sometimes Linux isn’t this complicated beast, and it’s as simple as something that even windows would have a problem with. It’s only difficult until you figure out the problem. Windows is a necessary evil some of the time but never all of the time.
Just keep swimming. You’ll figure it out. Not trying is being lazy and complacent.
yokonzo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Also though, you have to consider not all gamers are tech savvy, and your “generic fixes” through terminal would immediately make some of them have a quit moment.
I think Linux users forget the amount of base knowledge that they had to learn in order to simply use their software proficiently sometimes.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m a systems engineer, I do sometimes forget common knowledge isn’t everyone’s knowledge with IT stuff.
Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I guess it’s nice of them to release the drivers but that still won’t make it a good experience. They should have designed the deck to use full length nvme so you could get bigger drive sizes and not feel like a dual boot leaves no room for games. Not that I would do this or recomend it, yuck.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I use a 2TB Kingston SSD through the USB-C port. All the Steam Deck stuff stays on the internal drive, Windows 11 on the Kingston.
kingston.com/…/xs2000-portable-usb-c-solid-state-…
There are also docks that support NVMe:
jacksilver@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Is that faster than loading it on a microsd card? That’s how I currently boot windows on my steamdeck, but it’s a little slow to load and initial loads for some games can be painful.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 9 months ago
That kinda makes it not very portable. However, it’s true that you can get short high capacity drives. They’re just a bit harder to find.
yokonzo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I for one welcome the ability to:
- play flash games,
- Games without launchers or not on steam, run *vortex, wemod, obscure mod installers without winetricks that are more hassle than they’re worth (if they work at all) *Literally just not have to find workarounds for everything I want to do that isn’t through steam that adds another hour of research and installation to the process.
You may now begin the downvotes. (Even if you’re wrong I respect your opinions)
Laser@feddit.org 9 months ago
play flash games,
I don’t think there’s currently any supported software running flash files that’s Windows exclusive, is there? Adobe ended support and the most mature solution is ruffle, which is open source and runs on Linux as well.
Games without launchers or not on steam
??? When has this not been possible?
Muffi@programming.dev 9 months ago
Great! Like installing square wheels on my bike
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Minecraft players in en shambles right now.
DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“Big paws on a puppy… to a tee.”
Well, put, friend, well said, thanks for sharing!