It is getting absurd at this poin. Just get a laptop and call it a day
Absurdly massive and yet no space for some touchpads? 🤡
Might as well get a laptop???
Submitted 2 weeks ago by penquin@lemm.ee to steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
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theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, how is it that none of these so-called “rivals” have even a single touchpad? I personally wouldn’t even consider a device that forces me to use a thumbstick as a mouse.
yuri@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
nah babe just COVER your screen in fingerprints! everyone loves touch screens right??
zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Gotta be honest, i hardly ever use them on the Deck.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Legion Go has a touchpad. I think even the newer one that’s been announced has an (albeit much smaller) touchpad.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I’ve never used the touchpads on mine outside of desktop mode. The vast majority of games have controller support.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’d even settle for a Lenovo-style nipple for mouse control.
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Lmfao. I didn’t even notice that. Damn. They didn’t even put the joystick next to the buttons on the right side like the steam deck for better ergonomic, they STILL put it under the buttons.
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The device in the OP is not the steam deck
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Honestly the deck is already pushing how big a handheld can be and still be portable/handheld. I don’t think I would want anything larger
JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yah, it appears that 650g is the maximum weight im willing to hold for more than 30 minutes. Even then I’d rather use my ipad as a steam link.
Water_Melon_boy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Agreed, sometimes I even wish there is a “Deck Lite” model.
dditty@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Yeah if they could find a way to shave even 30-50 grams that would make a big difference
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I find it absolutely hilarious that every single company has a “Steam Deck killer” yet not a single one of them have any idea what made the Steam Deck popular, all they understand is PC handheld with controller (Lenovo is starting to catch on tho).
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
What are they missing thst the steam deck has? Price?
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
The steam deck the absolute most ergonomic handheld I’ve ever tried. It’s so fucking comfortable to game on. I love how they put the joystick the same level as the buttons where my thumb moves very naturally between the two. It has amazing touchpads. Great battery and performance. It’s just an amazing device.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Price, software, hardware quality, touchpads, gyro, and a decent sized community
westyvw@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
A pound heavier than a steam deck doesn’t sound like a lot, but it is in practice.
Also… Windows? Well it’s not good for handheld gaming right out of the gate.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’m stoked about the removable controllers, though. I’m gimpy AF so even the steam deck is too heavy. I ended up with a Legion Go and love that I can use it with wireless controllers and the kickstand.
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My hands are tired just looking at it
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
😂
taiyang@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hot take, but I see it having a market for people who just want to play on a tablet dedicated to gaming without futzing with peripherals. During break I stole my daughter’s tablet to play Gameboy games and it was possibly better than my deck (lighter weight, bigger screen, and shaders that give it a pixel grid w/ a GBC border frame).
This big thing is still not for me, though, as I’d prefer the versatility of going portrait mode because I would likely use it as a 3DS emulator depending on how good the touch is. DS screens fit quite comfortably on tablets in portrait mode. (Assuming I even have the disposable income, which I do not).
Delphia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Someone was always going to do an XL version for people who want something thats more “portable gaming station” than “handheld”. I dont know why people seem to be bitching about having options.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My issue is power consumption. Where I live, I rely on solar panels and batteries, and the steam deck is less power hungry than a laptop with graphics card.
MattW03@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I agree. So big screen and controllers that Nintendo Switch looks like a lilliputian. Not so portable.
cron@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I don’t think 11 inch is absurdely big. That’s the screen size of the current iPad air.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The iPad probably weights less than half what this thing does, and probably takes up a lot less space.
Also it’s probably faster and almost certainly gets better battery life.
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
You’re probably right on the battery, as this thing has a tiny (compared to its screen and res) battery of 55wah
LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
True, but iPads don’t have inbuilt controllers, and packing one would inherently make it less portable than a deck. I think if you’re making a portable gaming system, your maximum screen size is sharply constrained by the form factor of the controller around it.
cron@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This device is basically a windows tablet with detatchable controllers. This will probably me more portable than if the controllers were always connected.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Give it one of those detachable cardboard keyboards and it it would be an overgrown Surface competitor.
Hubi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Honestly, it kinda makes sense with the detachable controllers. It’s essentially a very powerful tablet. It’s less practical but it serves a different niche than the Steam Deck IMO.
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I get it, but it wouldn’t be a handheld anymore. What’s a handheld if it makes your arm tired after a couple of minutes? Plus, the battery life on this thing is going to be abysmal with the 55wah battery they put in it.
Hubi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This is the kind of thing you take with you on vacation in a motorhome at a campsite. Situations where a PC is not practical but you’re stationary enough to not have to worry about the size or the battery life.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Smart move. People keep buying ridiculously oversized phones. Smaller ones somehow do not sell. So why not apply the same concept to tablets
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
A laptop does not support attached controllers for hand-holding. Seems pretty obvious.
I cannot hold my hands in the air indefinitely. Even completely empty my arms will get tired after a few short minutes, much less several hours. My Steam Deck gets held on my lap or on a table or something like that.
OneXPlayer has something similar that I actually considered buying (but ultimately didn’t for several reasons) that includes a keyboard and (laptop) trackpad and a pen. If I can buy 1 device that can do both handheld gaming and also laptop productivity, I can save a whole lot of money…
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Even completely empty my arms will get tired after a few short minutes, much less several hours.
Sound like a you problem /s
Weebdeluxe@ani.social 2 weeks ago
Aren’t you missing the point? The portability and formfactor (controller) is what makes handheld pcs like this worthwhile. A laptop is a laptop, it’s not really made for portable play and you’d need to lug around a controller.
I stopped using Reddit because of shitposts like these and here we are again.
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Subjective and your opinion, which is ok. This is not a shitpost. Don’t be bitter, take part in the discourse without being bitter, my friend.
Weebdeluxe@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I’m not being bitter. I just feel that the wording of the original post is pretty baity. You’re unhappy with size and weight, and that is a vlid point worth discussing. But making the jump to laptops? Hyperbolic engagement bait. I don’t like it. If others do, that’s fine. But I feel this trend of engagement bait is bad for platforms in general. And I want to keep the illusion up that lemmy is better than this.
If it isn’t, then I still feel it’s worthwhile to point out that discussions can be had without the hyperbole.
hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Your post is also subjective and your opinion.
Fades@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At what point does the screen become too big and it’s cumbersome and not very mobile, requiring you to hold this large heavy thing in your hands as the big screen is also the controller?
You’re whining about needing to lug around a controller as if that is some big task that kills portability but you’re still lugging around a big ass fucking screen that you must hold the entire time to use.
Weebdeluxe@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I think I made it clear why this reminded me of bad reddit posts.
You clearly have more knowledge about portable gaming laptops than I have. So my opinion might be based in ignorance. I am hardly whining though.
I feel like having several items (laptop plus controller) to carry around is a bigger dealbreaker than having a bigger device. Though I agree that an increase in size and weight can be problematic.
I also never wanted to imply that this community has no value and I am sorry I gave that impression.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
This is far too big, but still preferable over laptops if you just wanna game
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
This is also a killer tablet, actually
Linux tablets when?
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Install bazzite! I have a Legion Go and I love it with Bazzite.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Some people have been running linux on surface tablets I think?
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah the steam decks are laptops but cheaper
Just get a little usbc > usbc/hdmi/usb and you can plug in a keyboard and mosue and then you have a gaming linux laptop for like $350
Show me another capable gaming laptop you can get for $350
Fades@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re missing the actual point, at what point does it become cumbersome to hold a big ass screen in your hand that is also the controller?
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Steam Desk isn’t cumbersome tho, at least not more cumbersome than any laptop would be. I really struggle to see how any of the concerns in this thread are legit.
If there were competative gaming laptops that had the samr power as a Deck then people would be buying those instead of Steam Decks, that’s why they’re so popular.
TBH this thread sounds like a marketing campaign that idioids would assign to a troll farm instead of actually competing.
JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
this is basically the oversized razer kishi pro with an ipad mini.
ive got that rn and it’s pretty amazing as a steam link device.
steamos really needs to fix their steam link code, it’s a mess.
cron@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
ipad mini is 9 inch, this device is 11 inch
Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not big enough. I want to carry a 55’’ “mobile” gaming device with me. Make it bigger!
mrfriki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know the fun thing? If they managed to reduce the roughly 3+ centimeters of useless bezel on all sides the size wouldn’t be so unreasonable.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m surprised about this - phones, monitors and tvs have this figured out.
I’d have to assume it’s a cost thing.taiyang@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve doing bezels play an additional role of protecting the screen. My most fragile monitor is the one with almost no bezel-- a tiny bump and kaboom, fucked monitor. I’m sure that plays a part in the design decision.
pixxelkick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If it’s not too too heavy, I’m not opposed.
Bigger screen will make touchscreen typing on a keyboard less of a PITA
Some games require rarely typing into the on screen keyboard, and as much as I like my ROG Ally, the small screen makes the onscreen keyboard a real pain to type on
Honestly what I’d like is a secondary N64 style center back handle that I can hold with 1 hand while I type with the other, to make the typing way more stable.
Awkwardly holding it out on the left side way off center fulcrums it as I type, which makes it less stable. You need some genuine wrist strength to fight against that lever action while typing.
So, instead, I usually awkwardly rest it in my lap while I try and type so it’s stable at least. But this moves the screen a lot farther away so now I gotta squint at the small ass letters as I aim and type. Makes me feel like a goddamn boomer having to adjust my glasses and squint at the screen.
So… yeah I dunno, I feel like this is something that could use a better solution.
I guess I could use my Tap XR… 🤔
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I have a onexplayer and it’s freaking heavy as hell. I love the steam deck. It is better in every aspect, especially the ergonomics of it. I despise how all of these devices have the right joystick under the buttons. It’s so awkward
azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Even SD is too big for me after all. Would be nice to have a handheld with the exact power as SteamDeck, but compact
shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I love the joycon aspect.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Tbf, the Steam Deck shows up as device type: laptop in the Steam Deck Hardware Survey.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Everyone’s hating on this but I can’t wait to get one used in 5-10 years. Looks pretty cool to me personally.
smeg@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I’m always a fan of companies making something new rather than the same old same old (identical black rectangles being the classic example). Yeah a lot of them are terrible but I think they get points for trying!
rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Finally, something I can read VN text on
nman90@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Im down with the screen size but it really needs 4 back buttons instead of 2 and at least 1 trackpad for me to really consider any handheld. I also really like the scroll wheel on my legion go but I can do without on that
Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
even with the tiny switch screen we played smash ult on it in kickstand mode with controllers in the break room. turns out if everyone uses dual joycon you get mad input lag before reachinh max players.
bigger lug like this that would be a nicer experience
jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
1x 27” laptop please.
Nima@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
i agree. the reason steam deck and other handhelds work well is because of the smaller screen/resolution.
makes it light and games run ok due to the smaller resolution. a chonker like this completely defeats the purpose of a handheld imo.
earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Idk if I’d call the deck light.
Nima@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
compared to a laptop, I would. even a small one.
penquin@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Try the onexplayer and you’ll call it extremely light then. Lol
Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just get a beer belly and rest your deck on it 👍
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Every other PC handheld runs at 1080+. And while I agree 800p is the ideal resolution there’s clearly a market for higher resolution. Especially for those of us running lighter games.
Nima@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
oh I’m good where I am with the deck. in future I’m sure it will get smaller, not bigger.
that, and competitors can’t seem to come up with a decent trackpad the way steam deck has. so competitors will need more than a higher resolution and a huge fat monitor.
just my opinion, anyway.